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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 18 September 21 15:23 BST (UK) »

I have a query about info I have and that you proven.
We have Miles born 1846 and have his christening but I also have a Margaret born 1846 Mar in Bolton - unless they were twins this does not compute


I couldn't find a birth in Bolton in 1846 for Margaret Sweeney/Sweeny. What's the source for Margaret?
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 18 September 21 15:32 BST (UK) »

I have a query about info I have and that you proven.
We have Miles born 1846 and have his christening but I also have a Margaret born 1846 Mar in Bolton - unless they were twins this does not compute


I couldn't find a birth in Bolton in 1846 for Margaret Sweeney/Sweeny. What's the source for Margaret?

See reply #13.
‘Margt’ in the census.

Your list of names looks good too, Maiden Stone according to the censuses for the children of Charles and Anne.

Yvonne,
I am just wondering lastly, about the original query re Miles and Ann Gorman of Plymouth.
Is that still relevant / mistaken ?
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 18 September 21 15:39 BST (UK) »
[quote author=Maiden Stone link=topic=853217.msg7212200#msg7212200 date=1631972678

Doing a recap on Sweeney/Sweeny birth registrations in Bolton with mother's maiden surname Cox.
From GRO births index.
https://www.gro.gov.uk

That's 7 of 10.
 I noticed another which was presumably Daniel but initial letter was wrong and there was no mother's maiden surname.

[/quote]

He's Daniel on Lancashire BMD births index which was compiled from original birth registers at Preston. 



Total so far is 12. Did they definitely all belong to the same parents?

I'm not sure about John 1863. John on your list is between a Mary and Sarah. Is the list in chronological order? In that case there should be a birth registration for John between 1849 and 1853.



The only birth registration I can find for a John Sweeney in Bolton 1849-1853 is 1851 mother's maiden surname Duffy.
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 18 September 21 15:45 BST (UK) »

We have Miles born 1846 and have his christening but I also have a Margaret born 1846 Mar in Bolton - unless they were twins this does not compute


I couldn't find a birth in Bolton in 1846 for Margaret Sweeney/Sweeny. What's the source for Margaret?

See reply #13.
‘Margt’ in the census.

Your list of names looks good too, Maiden Stone according to the censuses for the children of Charles and Anne.


"Margt" may have been a transcription error by census enumerator.
It helps to see them all on a list with birth registration years. The only child I'm unsure about now is John.
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 18 September 21 16:09 BST (UK) »
1861 has a John between Rosanna 13 yrs and Sarah 8 yrs.
The writing isn’t too clear and John is transcribed as 14 yrs but not convinced that is correct.

In 1871, John looks to be 20 yrs and Sarah is 18 yrs which seems better.

1881 3839 /9/11
In these censuses John is 30 yrs old and born Wigan  and there is a suitable birth  :)

But then there is Rosannah, 16 yrs as a sister to Miles James and a Sweeney/Cox birth in 1865  :-\
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 18 September 21 16:14 BST (UK) »
I don’t know whether this has been mentioned .
There is a death in 1861 for Rosannah, 14 yrs, so the second Rosannah birth was named for her. She is 6 yrs old in 1871.
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 18 September 21 16:18 BST (UK) »
Additional birth with likely death  Sweeney/Cox

Ann birth 1861 and death 1867
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 18 September 21 18:19 BST (UK) »
1861 has a John between Rosanna 13 yrs and Sarah 8 yrs.
The writing isn’t too clear and John is transcribed as 14 yrs but not convinced that is correct.

In 1871, John looks to be 20 yrs and Sarah is 18 yrs which seems better.

1881 3839 /9/11
In these censuses John is 30 yrs old and born Wigan  and there is a suitable birth  :)


1851 birth registration for John in Wigan district, mother's maiden surname Cox. Perfect  :)
He completes the dozen births.
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Re: Miles (Myles) Sweeney and family Ireland Lancashire and USA
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 19 September 21 02:42 BST (UK) »

In the 1861 Census for Charles (last one before his death in 1863) it gives
Charles, wife Ann, Miles, Rosanna, John, Sarah, Charles, Mary and Daniel
The 1st Charles would have already died and the 2nd Rosanna was not born for a couple of years after   The elder 2 Mary -the first Mary would also have died in 1853 and Margaret would probably have left home by then as they were the eldest  The 1851 Census has Margaret and Miles as the same age so perhaps they were twins
I think this is the correct family for Charles and Anne the other Sweeneys may be attached somewhere in the family but I do not have a link (yet)
Thanks again   Yvonne