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old Welsh name "ap something" Please help
« on: Saturday 18 September 21 01:46 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm interested in these 1535 Welsh names. I can decipher all but the last ap ???.

I'm not even sure the last ap is actually part of the names.  The document may be in Latin and that doesn't help!

I've circled the words in question. I would appreciate any help!

Thanks

Llanfi  :) :) :) :)
Pugh, Powell, Williams, Maddox, Prosser

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Re: old Welsh name "ap something" Please help
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 September 21 05:01 BST (UK) »
Ap means son of or daughter of, if that helps.

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Re: old Welsh name "ap something" Please help
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 September 21 05:11 BST (UK) »
I don't think that last one is an ap.  It's quite different to the others.

It's most likely to be:  ex

The next word is possibly:  latei or later

However this may be a contracted form.

ADDED:

In the first clip you can see:  ...Kevenforth ex capit'...

This may be  ex capit(e), which is a standard legal term.


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Re: old Welsh name "ap something" Please help
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 September 21 10:56 BST (UK) »
It's definitely ex (as HD has said), and not ap.

I suspect it's going to be ex later(e) uno and ex later(e) altero = 'on the one side' and 'on the other side', identifying two parties to an agreement, or two locations for property. But without seeing more context it's hard to be sure.