Author Topic: Where is he?? Herbert Scott  (Read 250 times)

Offline Girl Guide

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,595
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Where is he?? Herbert Scott
« on: Saturday 18 September 21 11:40 BST (UK) »
I have been trying, with no success, to find the following person:-

Herbert Scott born 11th July 1907 at 110 Hambalt Road, Clapham in the Wandsworth district.  His parents were Sydney and Blanche Scott nee Knowling.

I can find his parents in the 1911 census but they are not together.  Sydney is with his mum in Devon and Blanche is living solo at 7 Paddington St., Marylebone.  Blanche indicates that she has one child born and still living.

I noted that there was another Herbert Scott born in the Southwark district, same quarter and year.  I'm pretty sure that this is the same Herbert who died and is registered in MQ 1908 Southwark. Buried on 30th March 1908 at Manor Park Cemetery, East Ham, Essex.

Whatever I try I cannot find my Herbert in the 1911 census.  I have to assume that for whatever reason he didn't get recorded on that census.

I cannot find Herbert in the 1939 using his date of birth.  He would have been old enough to serve in WW2 which may be why I can't find him.

His father died in 1919 and his mother remarried to a James Rugg in 1926.

Any ideas anyone on finding Herbert?  Thank you.  :D
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

Offline Annette7

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,557
    • View Profile
Re: Where is he?? Herbert Scott
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 September 21 13:55 BST (UK) »
He could be the Burt Scott, a nurse child in Hadlow, Kent (Tonbridge regn. district) born London.

Likewise, a Herbert Scott bc.1908 death Mar.qtr.1912 Tonbridge.

If these entries relate to him would explain why you cannot find him in 1939 or in death indexes.

Annette
Scopes (One-Name Study - Worldwide)
Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Girl Guide

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,595
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Where is he?? Herbert Scott
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 September 21 14:03 BST (UK) »
That looks very promising Annette, thank you.  :D

I did wonder if his parents had separated and therefore 'farmed' him out elsewhere.  The death could indeed be his as it is in the same registration district as the 1911 entry.

I might see if I can find a burial record for that 1912 death.  Whether it would tell me anything helpful remains to be seen.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


Offline Girl Guide

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,595
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Where is he?? Herbert Scott
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 September 21 14:30 BST (UK) »
I can't seem to find any burial record for him.  It's possible that he was put in the coffin of someone else who died at the same time and no record was made of it. 

I may get the death certificate even though it may not confirm that he was the child of Sydney and Blanche.

There was no birth registered in the relevant time frame for a Burt and the death has been registered as Herbert.  In for a penny, in for a pound as they say  ::)
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

Offline Girl Guide

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,595
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Where is he?? Herbert Scott
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 13:18 BST (UK) »
Annette - I got the death certificate and what luck, it states his father as Sydney, and mother B Scott as being present at the death.  ;D

Herbert died at Golden Green, Hadlow, Tonbridge but his mother's address is given as 11 Benticke Street, Cavendish Square, London.

Mum must have moved on from her 1911 address.

Thank you for finding Burt for me and the likely death of Herbert.  Solved that mystery and Herbert was the only child they had.  ;D
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire