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Richard Roberts of Amlwch, Anglesey Wales born abt 1812
« on: Saturday 18 September 21 20:15 BST (UK) »
Looking for info on Richard Roberts census of 1851/1841 show Richard in Llangefelach, Swansea with family married to Hannah ?? On looking up couples mother’s maiden name through GRO records getting Davies and Owen. Finding this confusing. Richard and Hannah born Amlwch, Anglesey, Wales an area I know little about. Any info /help please







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Re: Richard Roberts of Amlwch, Anglesey Wales born abt 1812
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 September 21 22:41 BST (UK) »
Is it Hannah’s maiden name you are looking for?   Not quite sure but I can see that some children with the same names and similar dates as your 41, 51, and 61 censuses show a mother named Davies or Owen in the GRO birth records.  If you look at your family as a whole only Owen is consistent as the mmn for all the children for Richard and Hannah.

Richard Roberts baptised 5 July 1835.  Son of Richard Roberts, a copperman and Hannah, abode Morriston [OPR]
Ann Roberts 1838 Swansea 1Q 26 /404 mmn OWEN
Hannah Roberts 1840 Swansea 1Q 26 / 455 mmn OWEN
Samuel Roberts 1843 Swansea 1Q 26 / 455 mmn OWEN (455 not a typo)
John Roberts 1845 Swansea 2Q 26 / 500 mmn OWEN *
Sarah Roberts 1848 Swansea 2Q 26 /585 mmn OWEN
Henry Roberts 1851 Swansea 3Q 26 /557 mmn OWEN
John Roberts 1855 Swansea 1Q 11a / 467 mmn OWEN

* Possible burial for John born 1845 – 19th April 1854 aged 9yrs, residence: Morriston, buried Llangyfelach, Saints David & Cyfelach

Marriage; Banns posted 13, 20 and 27 October 1833.  Married November 2nd. Richard Robert and Hannah Owens, both of Morriston, married at Llangyfelach
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCYG-9QJ

have asked the moderator to move this to the Glamorganshire Board, you may get more help there

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Re: Richard Roberts of Amlwch, Anglesey Wales born abt 1812
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 September 21 08:37 BST (UK) »
In 1851 they have a lodger Samuel Owen age 25 bn Amlwych, possibly Hannahs brother  :-\

Possible baptism at Amlwych for a Samuel Owen 11 Sep 1824 with parents John & Anne. 

Also baptism for Hannah Owen with same parents 13 Aug 1814
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Re: Richard Roberts of Amlwch, Anglesey Wales born abt 1812
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 September 21 09:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the info . I am fairly new to family research, so constantly learning. Census info said both Richard and Hannah born Amlwch, Anglesey hence the heading in my post. Was not sure if couple married Amlwch, then moved. As have banns for same named couple in Amlwch or they married Swansea. Needs a bit more digging to checkout. Thank you for all your help


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Re: Richard Roberts of Amlwch, Anglesey Wales born abt 1812
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 September 21 15:08 BST (UK) »
If you have just started researching, you’ve done really well to get back so far!  Amlwch is interesting.  Apart from being a port town it is renowned for the copper mines on Parys Mountain – no doubt where Richard learned his trade.  The mines date back to the Bronze Age, later the Romans.  The family of the Welsh painter, Kyffin Williams made their money there, by the time he was a young man most of it had gone but the extended family still owned a house in Venice where he produced some of his earlier works.

Forgot to say – marriage 2nd Nov 1833 at Llangyfelach, both Richard, a bachelor, and Hannah, a spinster, signed the Register by mark X, witnesses were Thomas Joseph and Thomas Charles.  Image on findmypast.

Richard Roberts baptisms - Amlwch
9 Nov 1811 parents John & Frances
2 March 1811 parents Richard & Anne
7 Aug 1813 parents Richard & Elizabeth

The names Frances and Elizabeth were not carried through by Richard and Hannah, so Richard and Anne seem the most likely parents for your Richard, but difficult to trace back further because there are several Richard Roberts / Anne marriages showing at Amlwch.

Searching An*ry for people by the name of Owen born Amlwch living in Glamorgan brings up several possible siblings for Hannah.  Perhaps they migrated there as a family?