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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 19 September 21 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hi MonicaL

At her 1st wedding in 1912 she lived at 33 Cawdor Street Runcorn, her father John Hayes was alive and was a Chemical labourer at Alkali

Are you sure that she is the Ellen in that family? You refer to her parents and siblings, is that from later knowledge or assumption?
On the marriage certificate you have posted on your tree, her father is described as a ‘Labourer’ not a Chemical Labourer  :-\
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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 19 September 21 15:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood looking at the the 1901 and 1911 census working backwards and her 1936 marriage is states John Hayes Chem worker deceased just Chem missing from the 1912 cert.
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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 September 21 15:49 BST (UK) »
Yes I could see those but wanted to check.
If her father is shown as a Chemical labourer on her second marriage, then that seems to fit.
Do the witness names at the second marriage help?
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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 September 21 15:52 BST (UK) »
Witness Joseph Hayes could well be her brother, he was born in 1894 and married a Rosanna so not sure who Mary Brannan was?
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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 September 21 16:08 BST (UK) »
Are they the witnesses to the Arnold/Newby marriage?
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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 19 September 21 16:17 BST (UK) »
That was the Arnold/ Newby cert

The 1912 Newby Hayes I cant trace the witnesses my only issue is the spelling of Hayes/ Hayes?
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 19 September 21 16:37 BST (UK) »
I think this is the major struggle. Hayes/Heyes :(
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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 19 September 21 17:47 BST (UK) »
There is no birth though under either surname for that birthdate.
Do you know where the children were baptised? Could you check for her baptism?

There is a Mary Brennan living close by in 1939 - perhaps the witness.
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Re: Newby/ Hayes headache
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 September 21 15:02 BST (UK) »
Ive check for baptism but no luck :(
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