Andrew Hyslop born about 1786 Urr

[Jopeg]

There is a death for a James Hyslop in 1844 but it doesn’t tell me anything.

Unless there is a gravestone.

[MonicaL]

Was James Hyslop still alive in 1851 & 1861 or was Jane widowed by then?

Added: Have you found Andrew in 1851?

Monica

[Jopeg]

Jane was widowed by 1851.

I have a maybe for Andrew in 1851.

He has acquired a wife Mary who has a son James Walker.

There is also an Agnes Hume working for them, but she isn’t the niece mentioned previously.

[MonicaL]

Yes, did see that entry for a possible for Andrew. Just not sure that he would go from farmer of 70 acres in 1851 to agricultural labourer by 1861...but a maybe for sure.

Just looking at the names of the children of James and wife Jane Dickson for any clues for grandparents' names. I am sure you have this but just for reference here. From SP there is the following and those with c. are approx. birth years:

1810 - Agnes
1812 - Margaret  - Jane's mother's name
c.1814 - James
1816 - John
1819 - Martha
1821 - Andrew Blyth
1825 - David - Jane's father's name
1828 - Martha Bigham Laurie
1832 - Jean Riddick

There may be others who do not show on this index.

Monica

[Jopeg]

They were my thoughts about the farm, one of the reasons it is a maybe.

There are too many Andrew Hyslops for the number of deaths, at least I think there are.

[MonicaL]

He has acquired a wife Mary who has a son James Walker.

Just to note that Andrew is showing as a widower in his 1861 census entry at his niece's household. Just for consideration, there is a marriage for an Andrew to a Martha Dickson in 1814 in Urr www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTRW-MXG

My Heritage has:

Martha Hyslop (born Dickson), 1792 - 1818
Martha Hyslop (born Dickson) was born on month day 1792, at birth place .
Martha married Andrew Hyslop on month day 1814, at age 22.
Andrew was born Circa 1792.
They had 2 daughters: Agnes Hyslop and one other child .
Martha passed away on month day 1818, at death place .

I don't have a subs and sources not shown.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Martha is a name that carried through the line of James H and wife Jane Dickson. Wondering whether brothers could have married sisters?

Possible birth for a Martha with same parents as Jane www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XBYR-5RH

The birth year does not agree with the age quoted on My Heritage. Without sources, it is always a guess.

Monica

[Jopeg]

Thanks Monica

I’m not ignoring you, I am trying to sort everyone out.

The theory seems to be that the Andrew who married Martha Dickson went on to marry Amelia McQuae.

I found Amelia’s death, her mother was called… Agnes Hume!

[MonicaL]

It is so hard in these communities with the concentration of similar names  There seems to be very little in the OPRs for the names I have been looking at. Maybe the families belonged non presbyterian chapels.

There are a few references to the URR UNITED ASSOCIATE for baptism (Andrew H father James in 1825 for example).

Monica