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Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« on: Monday 20 September 21 07:49 BST (UK) »
I'm tying up loose ends in prep for putting the story so far together for my mum (we started working on my main tree in 1987, she stopped after a couple of years, I carried on) and found my 5x great grandmother Rebecca Jepson nee Allyson in the Ault Hucknall contingent, then her father William Allyson of Palterton, I dug up his will and discovered her eldest brother had a really weird name for someone born c.1690 - Colton , then I read further and there were references to holdings in Southoe, Huntingdonshire. After chasing that snippet all over I found a marriage bond for William Allyson of Doddington and Mary Colton of Southoe , so they both came from the Ely area - then the Allyson name becomes scarce and the Colton name disappears in Huntingdon, but reappears in Derbyshire and Notts, so I'm positing a move by Mary and other relatives. Problem is I can't track down where Colton was born (I know he was married at Scarcliffe 30 Nov 1711 to Mary Cadwell) nor any of the siblings, but they should be somewhere as the kids of a fairly well off farmer and landowner .  I'd love to know if anyone has come across any references in their travels to either family in the Scarcliffe and Palterton area from 1690 or has any ideas of where to look other than Huntingdon archives
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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 September 21 12:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,

In the will of William Allyson, he names 3 daughters with only their married Surname -
Clarke gets 1 shilling
Leadbetter gets 1 shilling
Fisher gets £100

Using Family search looking for Allyson = any of the above produces

Mary = Fisher
Eaglin = Clarke
Alice = Leadbetter

These marriages, together with that of Colton can be seen on

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.surname=Allyson&q.filmNumber=428936&count=20&offset=0&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on

If you click on the first name Sarah Allyson, this takes you to an option to view the Scarcliffe early registers (Bishopís Transcripts) 

Click browse the film

You need image 297 of 422, which is the start of Scarcliffe.

Hope this helps

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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 September 21 17:41 BST (UK) »
His younger children are named by christian name in his will and I have the baptisms for all of them except Co(u)lton, Eaglin, Mary and Alice for who I have the marriages and obviously I have more on
 Rebecca as I'm a direct descendant. The will after the part about him offering £200 for Colton to surrender the property in Southoe and Bolsover refers to after his wife's death and his 5 youngest children are named as Elizabeth, Christopher, Sarah, Rebecca and Penelope, If the surnamed ones are Eaglin Clarke, Alice Leadbeater and Mary Fisher, then they were all married prior to the will being written (so presumably had a marriage portion) , I don't have baptisms for the elder 4, either here or in Herts and I have no marriages or deaths for the younger ones (except Rebecca). William's widow remarried a year after he died at Ault Hucknall to John Garnon/Garnow (I suspect before Colton was 21 so that trusteeship of her estate passed to her new husband). what's driving me mad is that they all just surface once or twice and then poof!, they're nowhere to be found , even though there's still Allysons locally  to this day which would imply that at least one of his sons had issue
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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 September 21 18:37 BST (UK) »
I'm about halfway through the Scarcliffe records and so far it agrees with what I've found in the transcripts, which is refreshing, but I have thoughts on Eaglin Clarke - if she was married at full age then she can't be Mary Colton's because she would have been born 4 years before they were married , so I'm going to the assumption either there's a bastardy bond or a previous marriage for william (william and Mary were married by bond so ...)  seriously, why didn't that come into my head reading the transcript? these lightbulbs always switch on when i'm reading originals for some reason. I'm also endlessly entertained by the surnames that haven't really changed round here in the last 400 odd years
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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 September 21 21:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,

If you have the marriage bond for William = Mary Colton, does it not give information such as age, spinster, widower etc.  When was the marriage and where did it take place.

Being left 1shilling in a will, in this case the Father leaving a child, is an indication that there had been some problems in the relationship, if there had been a marriage portion it is usually mentioned.

Colton is to get £200, two months after he is 21 provided before that time he has given up all his rights in the lands.  Question is did he give up his right, see following dated  1835, the name is Cotton Allyson, if you have not seen this document it may be worth asking Huntingdonshire if Cotton is actually written, it may be a typo.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/d5f97f6c-2c77-43e2-91ec-271ff69663a1

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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 September 21 23:38 BST (UK) »
The bond is just in the index, I've about as much chance of getting to Huntingdon archive as flying to the moon at the moment so unless my local family search centre has films of the actual bonds and allegations I'm not going to see it . I've found the one shilling thing in another will with married daughters (same line actually, it's Rebecca's husband, Richard Jepson sr ) I'm still trying to decipher the will to see if there's any more clues, It's interesting that Mary Fisher gets £100 . I think from the fine one of my hunches might be correct, that there was a good amount of back and forth between Scarcliffe and Southoe, there's a Christopher and a Penelope who are buried in Southoe in the correct timespan for them to be the Scarcliffe ones, Colton might be back there as well in 1737  seeing as he's named as a party to the dispute, I don't know why that didn't come up when I searched the surname on the NA website. I'm probably going to add what I've got and park it for the time being until I get chance to see some records, I wish the central funding was there to help smaller archives get their collections digitised and available through the National Archives but that's probably a pipe dream. ETA there's a decent possibility that Cotton is a typo , marriage says Coulton , Will says Colton, but if the typo is consistent it wouldn't get picked up by a soundex search for Colton
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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 September 21 23:43 BST (UK) »
Cutt/Cutts -Derbyshire
Dean -Derbyshire
Kimpton/Kempton London, Yorkshire, Notts
Martin -Chesterfield/Nottingham
Martin -Co. Clare
Richardson -Whitwell
Johns - Mevagissey area

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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 10:37 BST (UK) »
I have just read over your info very quickly but is this what you require?

Bapts;
St Leonard, Southoe
Eglentine ALLISON 30 Mar 1686****
Alice ALLISON 12 May 1688****
Mary ALLISON 30 Jun 1690****
Parents of above WILLIAM/MARY
Colton ALLYSON 1 Mar 1692/3**** (father WILLIAM no Mother named)
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Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 13:35 BST (UK) »
Thatís great Trish, I always forget to use FreeREG.

Will help Jamieís169 greatly.

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