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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 01 February 22 16:48 GMT (UK) »
this post caught my eye as I am actually friends with someone with the surname of Livermore.. they live in the Essex area. I'll have to see if they would be interested in looking to see if there are any links! Unlikely but possible I guess as I know it isn't the most common of names! I'll get back to you on this!

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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 01 February 22 20:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you MrsS2012.  If your friend is interested, LizzieL at Replies #9 and #21 lists Thomas Livermore's siblings.  She has also provided a lot of information about Livermore descendants throughout this topic.
Livermore, Dewsnap/Duslop, Norris
Fuger, Fugger, Haberecht, Schilling, Bauer, Fliegert, Benz
Green, Ramell, Griffiths, White, Tate, Kelway

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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 01 February 22 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you MrsS2012.  If your friend is interested, LizzieL at Replies #9 and #21 lists Thomas Livermore's siblings.  She has also provided a lot of information about Livermore descendants throughout this topic.

Fantastic..I’ve let my friend know (it’s actually her husband who is the Livermore) and said I’ll look into it if he’s interested. I can’t imagine him not being interested but I forget not everyone is ancestry mad like me!

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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 01 February 22 20:35 GMT (UK) »
this post caught my eye as I am actually friends with someone with the surname of Livermore.. they live in the Essex area. I'll have to see if they would be interested in looking to see if there are any links! Unlikely but possible I guess as I know it isn't the most common of names! I'll get back to you on this!

Do you know which part of Essex your friend's family are from?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 02 February 22 08:49 GMT (UK) »

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Do you know which part of Essex your friend's family are from?
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I’m not sure, and I’m not sure if my friends husband is originally from Essex, this is just where they live now. Judging by his accent I think he is fairly local. My friend said she will ask him if he’s interested in finding out more and let me know!

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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #41 on: Friday 04 February 22 15:46 GMT (UK) »
My husband is a Livermore with paper trail through male line back to Robert Livermore b abt 1603. His autosomal DNA  links him to lots of other Livermore descendants including a descendant of your Thomas's brother William (1791).
But as his ancestors at that time were from a small area of the country where Livermores were plentiful, this could be a co-incidence and his actual genetic link is to a different ancestor. That was why I had done some previous research and was looking again at records I had already viewed.

Hello LizzieL:  I've been filling in my family tree on Ancestry, including Thomas's siblings (the children of James Livermore and Eleanor Buttell/Buttle), and remembered your husband's link to a descendant of William Livermore b.1791.  Since my DNA is now online, I don't suppose you've had a recent flag of a distant relation?  It may have come as my online name of doordie or family name Fuger.
Livermore, Dewsnap/Duslop, Norris
Fuger, Fugger, Haberecht, Schilling, Bauer, Fliegert, Benz
Green, Ramell, Griffiths, White, Tate, Kelway

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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 05 February 22 11:48 GMT (UK) »
My husband is a Livermore with paper trail through male line back to Robert Livermore b abt 1603. His autosomal DNA  links him to lots of other Livermore descendants including a descendant of your Thomas's brother William (1791).
But as his ancestors at that time were from a small area of the country where Livermores were plentiful, this could be a co-incidence and his actual genetic link is to a different ancestor. That was why I had done some previous research and was looking again at records I had already viewed.

Hello LizzieL:  I've been filling in my family tree on Ancestry, including Thomas's siblings (the children of James Livermore and Eleanor Buttell/Buttle), and remembered your husband's link to a descendant of William Livermore b.1791.  Since my DNA is now online, I don't suppose you've had a recent flag of a distant relation?  It may have come as my online name of doordie or family name Fuger.

I've looked at my husband's matches, but he doesn't seem to have a match to you.
His link to a descendant of William Livermore (your Thomas's brother) might not be through the Livermore's but to one of his other branches in that area. Or the tree that his match has on line may not be accurate.
My husband also has a match to a descendant of William Livermore son of Mary Lucas (Livermore) and Peter Rumbold. As William was not the son of Thomas Livermore (who had been transported), this link cannot be through Livermore DNA. It's too easy to jump to conclusions, when you see an uncommon surname in a match's tree and think the link is there.

Many trees have William and Thomas's father James descended from Peter Livermore (b abt 1594) of little Thurlow, Suffolk. One of their sons, John, sailed on one of the early immigrant ships to America and settled in Watertown, Massachusetts. Whether this John really was the ancestor of all the Livermores who claim him is unknown. Maybe they found them in the book by Thwing, see link below.
 I have not yet found a link with my husband's Livermores to Peter of Little Thurlow. The earliest I have is a Robert who married in Ashdon, Essex in 1628, so I guess he was born about 1600ish. Ashdon is about 10 miles from Lt Thurlow and 7 from Little Abington, so they may be related many generations ago.

https://archive.org/details/livermorefamilyo00thwi/page/n5/mode/2up


Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Thomas Livermore born 1787
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 05 February 22 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Many many thanks LizzieL.  I'm beginning to plough through my DNA Livermore matches, narrowing it down before I actually contact people.  So far they all seem to descend from William 1826-1903 (in Australia).  There are some senior Livermores in England, probably ancestors of Thomas 1787-1827, but may be paper trails and not necessarily DNA (John Livermore 1630-1693;  Andrew Livermore 1677- ;  Thomas Livermore 1711- ;  and Thomas's father: James Gayton Livermore 1765-1838).  On on.
Thanks for the link, I'll look at it after lunch.
Livermore, Dewsnap/Duslop, Norris
Fuger, Fugger, Haberecht, Schilling, Bauer, Fliegert, Benz
Green, Ramell, Griffiths, White, Tate, Kelway