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Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« on: Saturday 25 September 21 23:38 BST (UK) »
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Ive been trying to put some meat on the bones for a friend re Thomas Hunter Stuart

Thomas Hunter Stuart & Maria Teresa Tyler: Unknown parents and siblings?   
 
1.         Thomas Hunter Stuart b.1845?  d.1930 ?        m. never married?  Thomas was a Fleet Street tailor; dandy, gambler, ran snooker tournaments and printed programs on silk; performed in theater shows, lived at Westminster and mixed in the circle of Prince of Wales. Alexander said that his father (Thomas 1.1) told him that Thomas Sr. would always say only fools and horses work! 

 

            Thomas was a billard marker, gambler, well off, lived in a big house 54 Thornbury Road, Clapham  then moved to 15 Meadow Row, South Wimbleton. Eva looked after Teresa and bought the house.

   It was said that Thomas went off to the Boer War in the Black Watch Regiment and may have deserted after agreeing with the Boerís right for independence.  This history was uncovered by Marie [Alexanderís daughter] and is linked to Dumfries, Scotland.

 2. Maria Teresa Tyler  b.1863   d.?1944.  very little info known about Maria? of Surrey England

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Rick in Australia

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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 September 21 00:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Can you please ask your friend to share the information from any BDM certificates they already hold re those 19th century ancestors.   That will be helpful.

Can you please explain who is Alexander, who else is he related to?  You have him as son of Thomas 1.1. What was the surname used by Thomas 1.1,  how is 1.1 related to Thomas Sr.?

Who is Eva,  how is she connected to Thomas Hunter STUART....

Lots of questions.... but thats a start....  :)


JM .... in NSW Australia.

Greetings
Ive been trying to put some meat on the bones for a friend re Thomas Hunter Stuart

Thomas Hunter Stuart & Maria Teresa Tyler: Unknown parents and siblings?   
 
1.         Thomas Hunter Stuart b.1845?  d.1930 ?        m. never married?  Thomas was a Fleet Street tailor; dandy, gambler, ran snooker tournaments and printed programs on silk; performed in theater shows, lived at Westminster and mixed in the circle of Prince of Wales. Alexander said that his father (Thomas 1.1) told him that Thomas Sr. would always say only fools and horses work! 

 

            Thomas was a billard marker, gambler, well off, lived in a big house 54 Thornbury Road, Clapham  then moved to 15 Meadow Row, South Wimbleton. Eva looked after Teresa and bought the house.

   It was said that Thomas went off to the Boer War in the Black Watch Regiment and may have deserted after agreeing with the Boerís right for independence.  This history was uncovered by Marie [Alexanderís daughter] and is linked to Dumfries, Scotland.

 2. Maria Teresa Tyler  b.1863   d.?1944.  very little info known about Maria? of Surrey England

many Thanks
Rick in Australia

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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 September 21 01:06 BST (UK) »
There is this birth

TYLER, MARIA  THERESA     GRANNELL 
GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 131


Perhaps her parents are the  6 Aug 1855 St Mary Newington, marriage of
Thomas  TYLER engine driver, Poplar Row, father Thomas a carman
Jane Elizabeth GRANNELL.  poplar Row, father Richard, a landing waiter at Customs

But there are a lot of M. T. Tylers to choose from. We need to know where she definitely appears in your friendís paperwork
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)


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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 September 21 01:34 BST (UK) »
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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 September 21 01:40 BST (UK) »
And 1911 is there, but I cannot find it on Family search to link.
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 September 21 01:42 BST (UK) »
1939 matches 1911 address and explains Eva looking after Maria sentence

Add.birth

STUART, EVA       TYLER 
GRO Reference: 1899  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 774
 
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 September 21 01:53 BST (UK) »
Added.
Is this ďAlexanderĒ Brother of Eva in the censuses?

TYLER, ALEXANDER  STUART     - 
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 654
 
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 September 21 02:00 BST (UK) »
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Re: Thomas Hunter Stuart + Mary Teresa Tyler
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 September 21 02:03 BST (UK) »
So, Maria is easy to trace back (her birthdate given as 18/8/1863 which fits with birth reg.in Sept.qtr.1863 Southwark).

However am mystified by Thomas Hunter Stuart!!

He is plain Thomas bc.1847 in 1891/1901/1911 census, and plain Thomas when he died 1930.

So, where does 'Hunter' come from?   According to the 3 census above he was born in London.

Where does 'Fleet Street Tailor' come from?   Cannot find him before he was with Maria in 1891, nor, like you, can I find a marriage between them.

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