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Ambrose Jefferies
« on: Tuesday 28 September 21 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I am looking to see if anyone might be able to help me shed some light on a man who I think might be one of might be one of my ancestors - and to establish who his parents might have been.

My 3rd Great Grandfather was a man called Job Jefferies (sometimes spelt Jeffries or Jeffreys) born in 1819 in Stow-on-the-Wold in Gloucestershire. He was married to a lady called Mary Bartlett. I believe he may have also had a brother called Henry Jefferis (which usually appears to be spelt Jeffries).

Supposedly Job's father was an Ambrose Jefferies. I'm struggling, because I can't seem to find any information on Ambrose. He would have been born in 1772, also in Stow. I am told his first name might have sometimes been written as Amherst, although I am a little confused as to why - as I can find no etymological argument to suggest these names were/are interchangeable.

Would anybody be able to help me identify Ambrose and, ideally, his spouse?

Also, there appears to be some debate in our family as to who his parents were. There are several people who are certain that his father was called James Jeffries - but there is more than one potential person this could be.

A cousin believes that his parents may have been James Jeffries and Mary Ellis. I can find historical records that James and Mary had many children (they were clearly busy bunnies):

Job Jeffries
Jane Jeffries
Johnathan Purbrick Jeffries
Jemima Jeffries
Jeffrey Amhest Jeffries
Carolina Matilda Jeffries
Jeffery Jeffries
Bongoyne Jeffries
Jemima Jeffries (possibly named after a sister of the same name who died young)
Jeibre Jeffries
Eliza Jeffries
Daniel Jeffries

...but, as you can see, no Ambrose Jeffries. Considering Amherst as an alternative way of spelling Ambrose, I have begun to consider two possibilities:

1. Ambrose Jeffries is Jeffrey Amhest Jeffries - just with Jeffrey having been dropped from his name;

2. Ambrose Jeffries is a completely different person whose father also happens to be called James and also happens to come from Stow - which would be a heck of a coincidence, but not out of the realms of possibility.

Is there anybody at all who could help me solve this mystery? It would be greatly appreciated if you could!

Best wishes,
Andy

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Re: Ambrose Jefferies
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 September 21 14:58 BST (UK) »
There is a previous thread in 2015 which I replied to, so some of this is a repeat.



Just had a check at the Forest of Dean Forum, Marriage Allegations

and used the Soundex for Jeffries  etc - Stow on the Wold

First the Bond for

Amhurst  JEFFERIES - dated 1 Jan 1794

Profession: Sievier, residence: Stow on the Wold

Elizabeth COLLETT - Spinster, residence: Stow on the Wold

He signs

Witness: William ROGERS a Taylor of Stow on the Wold
The groom and William ROGERS are bound in the sum of 500.  To marry at Stow on the Wold


Secondly: the Licence, which gives more information

1 Jan 1794

Amhurst JEFFRIES - Over 21, Batchelor - residence: Stow on the Wold
Elizabeth COLLET - aged 18, Spinster - residence: Stow on the Wold

Marriage Allegations

sworn before Wm BAKER to marry at Stow on the Wold

With consent of the bride's guardians, Robert CHAMBERLAYNE Gent, & Thomas MINSTER, Surgeon. who both signed.


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My x Grandparents were in Stow at the same time and owned the local Pub.

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Re: Ambrose Jefferies
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 September 21 15:06 BST (UK) »
Can see on the National Archives (and will be on Ancestry)

Held at : The National Archives, Kew - Prerogative Court of Canterbury
21 June 1825

Will of James JEFFERIES, Sieve Bottomer of Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire.


Seems a family occupation: assume it all to do with the Wool trade.

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Re: Ambrose Jefferies
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 September 21 16:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Assuming Ambrose/Amherst are the same person, is there any way to establish who his parents were using a marriage record? I thought these usually included the parents' surnames?