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« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 22:46 BST (UK) »
My second great grandmother Esther married her lodger Edward Littler, (born in budworth cheshire) in St Helens 1874 after her first husband died approximately 1866? her son my great grandfather may be the son of the lodger as he was born in 1868 but on his birth certificate it says father unknown. I had been trying to confirm the death date for her first husband John Wilson who was born in warrington. according to a family story John apparently was hit by a railway truck which damaged his legs and he died days later. I haven't been able to find a record confirming this. However I was having a browse on a local history site called Sutton beauty and heritage and I came across a suicide report for an Edward Littler. for sept 1905. this man had died on the train tracks. after the story of the first husband dying after an accident i wondered if the stories had got mixed up and maybe this Edward Littler could possibly be my relative. I cannot find a death record for him on lancashire bmd or a church burial. I would appreciate any help trying to find any information for either of these men   
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 23:18 BST (UK) »


Paper was published Saturday 14th July


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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 23:24 BST (UK) »
Looks like the son was not  John Wilson's. Edward Littler is on the 1871 living as a lodger in Esthers household

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Perhaps the clue is in the son's middle name.  He was William Edward
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 23:37 BST (UK) »
Burial
John Wilson 30
8th July 1866
Farnworth Parish, Lancaster County
residence Bold

Burial
Edward Littler 42
9th September 1905
Walton Park, Liverpool
residence Royal Infirmary
notes
Coroners order
Relieving officers order

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This Edward Littler is too young to be the lodger

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 September 21 23:59 BST (UK) »
There’s also this burial

John Wilson age 37 abode Sutton
Burial 12 Jan 1869   Burtonwood, Lancashire
Register Type:   Bishop's Transcript
Reference Number:   Drl/2/483

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 September 21 00:11 BST (UK) »
The Edward Littler who died 1905 had a daughter Margaret Ellen b 1889.  Both are on the 1901 census as lodgers living next door to the Whalley family.  Edward married Mary Whalley in 1884.  He was 45 in 1901.

Definitely not the same Edward Littler
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 September 21 00:41 BST (UK) »
oh my goodness,  thank you so much for all your hard work and sharing this information. it shows that the story of John Wilson is true apart from the part where he supposed to have died a few days later. it does look like Edward is likely the father of my great grandfather. on another record it says that my grandfather is  William Edwin but not sure whether its been unclear record so hard to tell what it is.

and your right it can't be our Edward Littler who died on the tracks, he would have been in his late fifties/sixty by this time. 
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