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Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« on: Friday 01 October 21 20:21 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I'm looking for info on Margaret Williams? There is little info on her online but she was born in 1904 and lived in Trelawnyd before moving to Urmston. Would love to know a little more about her so I can give my gran some info on her family :)

Thanks,
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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 October 21 21:50 BST (UK) »
Do you have the marriage cert for Margaret to confirm her father's name & occupation? Or her birth certificate?

There is this Margaret on the 1911 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JJ-RBP

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Trelawnyd

birth reg Margaret Williams june qtr 1904 Holywell vol 11b pg 187 mmn Parry
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 October 21 21:52 BST (UK) »
Hiya, thank you! I don't have her birth certificate because it got lost when a relative moved, but I think her dad's name was William Williams.


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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 October 21 22:02 BST (UK) »
well, that could be the correct family. You can use the reference to order a copy of the certificate.

Who did she marry? When & where? The parish record, if there is one, may be online.

Possible baptism for mother in Trelawdyn

14 Aug 1865 Jane daughter of Edward, stone mason, & Margaret Parry of Newmarket.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 October 21 22:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you! That sounds right, Jane rings a bell now. Will definitely follow that route :)

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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 October 21 04:48 BST (UK) »
William Williams married Jane Parry 23 September 1893 Hawarden Flintshire.
His father Joseph, labourer
Her father William, labourer
Witness Elizabeth Parry, Fred Connah

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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 October 21 05:01 BST (UK) »
William and Jane had 2 children that died young.

Gladys baptized 21 August 1898 died 1902. There is a memorial at St Michael's Church
(on 1901 census age 2)
William Edward baptized 22 November 1896, buried 2 November 1897 St Michael's

This collates with 1911 information of married 17 years, 6 children, 4 living, 2 deceased 

Notes
James Owen baptized 1 September 1895
Mary Ellen baptized 4 November 1900

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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 October 21 20:40 BST (UK) »
that 1893 marriage is at the right time, but the ages are out. On the parish entry Jane is 23 & William 24. On the 1901 census Jane is 36 & William 46. Also, not finding either Jane or William with the named father from the entry.

But there is this possible 1881 census for William with father William and brother James O - James Owen on other records.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-WL6D

Birth reg James Owen Williams sept qtr 1865 Holywell vol 11b pg 263 gives mother's maiden name Jones.

Baptism 17 June 1854 Newmarket/Trelawdyn William son of William, miner, and Mary Williams of Newmarket.
Birth reg june qtr 1854 Holywell vol 11b pg 263 mmn Jones.

1871 Census to go with the possible baptism for Jane
1 Tai Newyd London Road Graig RG10/5636 folio 52 pg 13
Edward Parry head mar 33 mason
Margaret wife 45
Ellen dau 8
Jane dau 6
Thomas son 4
all born Newmarket

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for info: Margaret Williams c1904 Trelawnyd Flintshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 October 21 21:12 BST (UK) »
Hi all! Thank you so much for all the information, that's really helpful, do you mind me asking where you got all this information? :)