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Offline David Boulding

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Chancery case early 1500s
« on: Saturday 02 October 21 14:43 BST (UK) »
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/ChP/C1no469/IMG_0034.htm

Mostly the document is very neatly written and easy to read but one or two words have left me floundering. Most particularly the two words before John Bullyng..

The very first line shows what looks like:
"Lamentably sheweth and pitiously complayneth unto your good grace your pent? [present?] Oratour and untynuall? bedman? John Bullyng and Johane his wife"

C1/469/24 1518 - 1529
Addressed to Thomas lord cardinal legate, Archbishop of York, primate and chancellor. Orators John Bullyng and Joan his wife. Whereas John Davias seized of a messuage and garden with appurtenances in Godmersham, Kent so seized married Christian and had issue by her William, Richard, John and Joan [all Davias] and of the same messuage enfeoffed one John Maire and Gye at Hall to the use of John Davias and his heirs and to the performance of his last will. Willed to Christian with remainder to William and for lack of issue Richard and then John and final remainder heirs of Christian. William had issue John and died the property descending to this John who then enfeoffed Symond Lawne 'where after Rabage Broke' claymeth the premisses. John son of William died without issue so remainder to Richard and John son of John the testator 'by reason whereof remaynder of premisses descended to Joan daughter and heir of Christian which Joan took to husband John Bullyng.' Orator is the son of John Bullyng and Joan Bullyng.
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Re: Chancery case early 1500s
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 October 21 15:24 BST (UK) »
Probably it is:

...pou(er)e Oratour and contynuall bedeman...

See:    https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/middle-english-dictionary/dictionary/MED3880

ADDED:

If you are wondering where I found the second e of bedeman, see holde in line 4.

Offline David Boulding

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Re: Chancery case early 1500s
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 October 21 16:31 BST (UK) »
That's excellent... A bedeman = a petitioner, a suppliant; a plaintiff. As to "continual" I missed the c at the start.

Many thanks for being so really helpful.
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Re: Chancery case early 1500s
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 October 21 16:38 BST (UK) »
I thought at first "bedeman" might have been his occupation - before you kindly gave me the correct translation - but John Bullyng is thought (be me at least) to have been a vinter who died in 1523.

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/H8/CP40no1031/bCP40no1031dorses/IMG_1214.htm
Henry VIII, 1521: CP40no1031
(side d) (image 1214) London Plea of debt
Plaintiff: Chamberleyn, William, of London, draper, merchant of the staple
Defendants: Rawlyns, Robert, of Redyng, Berks, dyer; Chamberlen, Edward alias William, of Ayssheborn in the Peke, Derbs, yeoman; Gay, Edward, of London, stockfishmonger; Bullyng, John, of Godmersham, Kent, vintner; Ade, William, of Rochester, Kent, innholder, merchant of the staple
Boulding Boulden Bollyng (all - mostly Kent)
Finch (Kent - Henry & Elizabeth (Fossett)  Finch m1687  London)
Foord (Kent - Aldington, Stanford area)
Philpot (Kent - Alexander Philpot died 1601 Ashford)
Waggon/Waghorn (Kent pre 1715)
Rose (Kent)