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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 13:22 BST (UK) »
Martin curtin and mary wall lived in killeen kikishen and are buried in clonlea cemetery.
Do you think the 1st marriage certificate is not them then.
And the witness  they had hickey and o malley would they have to be parents etc

If the 1901 census is the correct family then the 1874 marriage posted earlier is correct (the birth registrations of their children confirm mother's maiden name, etc.)

Witnesses could be anyone- generally I've found more often siblings than parents. In our church there were what I call two perpetual witnesses- time after time they both appear as witnesses- but there was a simple explanation- one was the schoolteacher at the school attached to the church and the other the church sexton who lived across the road. Both men would have been handy to the church and both were able to sign their name (not a requirement) so were called over if witnesses were needed.
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 13:24 BST (UK) »
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 13:27 BST (UK) »
Here is the parish record for that marriage
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634667#page/133/mode/1up

If I'm reading the record correctly then residences (townlands) for witnesses are included in the church register.
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 13:33 BST (UK) »
Yes  :)
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 13:58 BST (UK) »
Heywood and Aghadowey  thanks so much at least now I have a marriage record and can try and go from there . Its a great help thank you so much

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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 14:37 BST (UK) »
There is another birth here for a Mary Wall and the mother is Hickey  :-\
It is Broadford parish where that  marriage took place.

20th April 1847
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 15:04 BST (UK) »
Not sure now at all what line or side is it on I can't see it.?

I know that there is o malleys or mealys in the link u sent before this one  from ballyvorgal in the curtin side . What was the name of the place hanora was from and whats showing as her 2nd name cannot read it ?

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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 15:33 BST (UK) »
On the left hand page, there is a diagonal stain and the Wall/Hickey baptism is under that - the fourth one down.

Which Hanora do you mean? Do you mean the first baptism I posted where Hanorah Duggan is the mother?
Or Hanorah Hickey, the marriage witness?
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Re: Mary wall information from clare
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 06 October 21 17:20 BST (UK) »
Heywood

I read that wrong is it hanorah duggan who is her mum then? And thanks