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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 10 October 21 21:47 BST (UK) »
Something in the Marylebone Mercury, 13 Nov 1880
Poor OCR text, am guessing at some of it
SUDDEN DEATH IN LITTLE NORTH STREET.
Dr Hardwick held an inquest on Tuesday at the Buffalos Head on James Lake, or Barker, aged **, costermonger. Martha Hoare, in whose house the deceased lived, said on Thursday morning he was taken in(?) a fit when in bed...(continues)

Possible death reg
Dec 1880 Marylebone 1a 408
Lake, James   
age 32   

Martha Hoare and her husband in Little North Street, Marylebone, in 1881
Piece 159 folio 50 page 20

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:22 BST (UK) »
1891 and Martha Hoare has Eliza Johnson, 12, boarding with her in Marylebone
Piece 97 folio 122 page 27
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3YFJ-ZZM

Says both born Marylebone, but maybe
JOHNSON, ELIZA  ANN     
Mother's Maiden Surname: LAKE 
GRO Reference: 1878  D Quarter in PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 163

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:28 BST (UK) »
1901 in Marylebone
piece 114 folio 77 page 2
50 Bell Street
Edmund Hoare Head 69 Wardrobe Dealer
Martha Hoare Wife 62, born Marylebone
Wm Johnson Nephew 20 General Labourer Camden Town
Alice Johnson Niece 17 Camden Town
James Johnson Nephew 15 Camden Town
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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:34 BST (UK) »
Have I got that name Barker right in the newspaper?
Marriage of interest?
24 April 1854, St John Paddington
Thomas Frederick Barber, minor, Carter
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Sarah Lake, of full age, Widow(!), father Thomas Lake, Sweep
Both resident Praed Street

Thomas and Sarah Barber witnessed Martha's marriage to Mr. Hoare
Could Martha's sister Sarah be mum? :-\

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:42 BST (UK) »
Something in the Marylebone Mercury, 13 Nov 1880

Full transcript below. Note that the names Barker and Barber are both used in the item.


Marylebone Mercury
13 Nov 1880
page 3, column 7
Sudden Death In Little North Street
Dr Hardwicke held an inquest on Tuesday at the Buffalo's Head on James Lake, or Barker, aged 26, a costermonger. Martha Hoare, in whose house deceased lived, said on Thursday morning deceased was taken in a fit when in bed, and died before she could get medical assistance. He had been unable to work lately, being subject to fits. She had kept him since May last. Dr Harris said death was from an epileptic fit. Mr Overton, relieving officer, said deceased was born in St Marylebone Workhouse. He was known to witness by the name of James Barber. On May 11, 1876, he was admitted to the infirmary, suffering from swollen feet. On the 3rd January, 1877, he was in the workhouse, where he had been for nearly eight months. On that day he appeared before the House Committee and applied for "stock" money. The application was not granted being contrary to law. He then took his discharge. On the 21st July, 1879, he applied to Mr Overton for an admission order to the workhouse. He was then suffering from scabies; order granted. He left the house on the 24th December, 1879, and after being out four days again applied for admission, which was granted. He once more left the workhouse, but on the 29th of September, 1880, applied for a medical order only, which was granted. Since that time Mr Overton had lost trace of him. A juryman said he had known deceased for two years, and he believed him unable to work as he was suffering from rupture. The Coroner and Jury agreed that great credit was due to Mrs Hoare for keeping deceased for so long a time. Verdict: Death from epilepsy.
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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:42 BST (UK) »
Have I got that name Barker right in the newspaper?

1871 and Thomas Barber, 39, and Sarah Barber, 45, have son James, 24!
Also daughter Martha, 11
Marylebone
Piece 8 folio 66 page 50

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks, cuffie!
Perhaps the newspaper report has the name wrong! Or both right and wrong!

1861 in Marylebone the Barbers have a daughter Eliza, age 11
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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:47 BST (UK) »
1861 as seen
Piece 81 folio 75 page 37
27 Charles Street, Marylebone
T F Barber Head 22 Carman
Sarah Barber Wife 35 Charwoman
James Barber Son 15 Porter
Eliza Barber Daur 11 Scholar
Martha Barber Daur 1

All born Marylebone
So if James could be James Lake or Barber (but Barker or Barber in news report!) who died in 1880, when living with Martha Hoare...
then Eliza might be Eliza Lake who married Walter Johnson, and whose children are nephews and niece to Martha Hoare in 1901 (plus Eliza junior with her in 1891)

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 10 October 21 22:57 BST (UK) »
Any Sarah in 1851 with children James and Eliza?