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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 10 October 21 23:16 BST (UK) »
Ancestry Church of England Marriages London

Emanuel Church Maida Vale Westminster    3 Jun 1904
JOHNSON Alice Louisa 21y spinster  residence 25 Carlisle Place
Father  JOHNSON Walter   carman

TAYLOR John   23y bachelor  labourer  residence 24 Carlisle Place
Father  TAYLOR John  labourer

Witnesses   J BARBER    E  BARBER   (all parties sign)


St Marylebone Westminster  23 May 1897
JOHNSON Eliza  19y spinster residence 49 Bell St
Father  JOHNSON Walter (deceased) carman

ABERCROMBIE Charles William  21 y bachelor  milkman residence 50 Bell St
Father ABERCROMBIE William  fish fryer

Witnesses William JOHNSON   Julia BRACKENBURY (X)


Parish Church St Marylebone 6 Jun 1881
BRACKENBURY Alfred  full age  bachelor  labourer residence  8 Little East St
Father BRACKENBURY James    lisenced hawker

DUNN Julia (X)      minor spinster  residence  8 Little East St
Father LAKE David  gas fitter

Witnesses   R LAKE   E LEAKE

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #28 on: Monday 11 October 21 19:09 BST (UK) »
1841 - Tooting Court, MArylebone

Thos Lake    45 - chimneysweep
Mary Lake    44
Thos Lake    15
Benj Lake    11
Sarah Lake    13
Ann Lake    6
Martha Lake    1y 6 months

HO107; 679; 40; 74;


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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #29 on: Monday 11 October 21 21:24 BST (UK) »
1841 - Tooting Court, Marylebone

GRO BMD references:
1843 Q2 Death - Mary Lake; age 44 (born c1799); Marylebone; 01; 190
1848 Q1 Death - Thomas Lake; age 56 (born c1792); Marylebone; 01; 215

Burial
name: Mary Lake
buried: 13 Jun 1843; St Marylebone
age: 44 years
abode: Tooting Court

Burial
name: Thomas Lake
buried: 16 Jan 1848; St Marylebone
age: 56
abode: Tooting Court

St Marylebone Infirmary register
name: Thomas Lake
admitted: 06 Jan 1848
died: 09 Jan 1848 12 PM
age: 56 yrs
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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #30 on: Monday 11 October 21 21:31 BST (UK) »
Sarah Lake - aged 21, married , of 3 Tooting Court admitted to the St Marylebone Workhouse Infirmary 28 October 1847, discharged 5 November. Says medical admission


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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #31 on: Monday 11 October 21 21:34 BST (UK) »
Settled family - they were living in Tooting Court in 1827 when Sarah was baptised!

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #32 on: Monday 11 October 21 21:47 BST (UK) »
Settled family - they were living in Tooting Court in 1827 when Sarah was baptised!

And in 1825 when son Thomas was baptised.
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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #33 on: Monday 11 October 21 22:22 BST (UK) »
Getting slightly off-track here, but I think this may the son, Thomas, born c1825.

Globe
20 Dec 1849
page 4
Marylebone
- Yesterday, Thos. Lake,
- who has upon many occasions been brought up to this court
- for different offences,
- was placed at the bar charged with having stolen
- the whole carcass of a sheep,
- the property of Mr Thomas Langham,
- a butcher carrying on business at No 1 Oxford-terrace, Edgeware-road
- Speedlove, 61 D, deposed that at ten on the previous night
- he met the prisoner in Quebec-street, New-road,
- carrying a sack,
- which evidently contained something very heavy
- he followed him and asked him what he had,
- to which he replied "Nothing" and threw down the sack
- while witness was stooping down to examine it,
- he (prisoner) ran away
- the sack contained a carcass of a sheep;
- it weighed upwards of ten-stone
...
- Sheergold, 40 D, stated he caught prisoner in Allsop-mews
...
- Charles Lovegrove, in the employ of Mr Langham,
- said he saw the sheep,
- which he had killed and dressed himself,
- safe in the slaughter house in Toting-court, Crawford-street,
- between six an seven o'clock on the previous evening
...
- Policeman Williams, 141 D, proved a former conviction
- against the accused, who, in November 1846,
- was tried at Clerkenwell,
- and sentenced to six months' imprisonment
- for robbing a till
...
- he was fully committed for trial


Newgate Prison Calendar
10 Jan 1850
Thomas. Lake; age 25; occ Mason;
Stealing 80lbs weight of mutton, value 40s, property of Thomas Langham


Old Bailey
Thomas Lake
07 Jan 1850
341. THOMAS LAKE , stealing 80lbs. weight of mutton, value 2l.; the goods of Thomas Langham: having been before convicted.
Aged 25
Guilty: Transported for 10 years
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-341-18500107&div=t18500107-341#highlight
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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #34 on: Monday 11 October 21 22:50 BST (UK) »
Ancestry Western Australia Convicts Records
https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/60668/images/44765_352398-00415?

Thomas LAKE (2681) arrived "Sea Park"  1854....30 years...single...mason

WA BDM death
LAKE   Thomas      53   
(mother) Unknown   (father) Unknown   place of birth) Unknown      10185   1879

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https://fremantleprison.com.au/history-heritage/history/convict-database/

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Re: Eliza Lake
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 10:13 BST (UK) »
Any Sarah in 1851 with children James and Eliza?

This looks promising. No Eliza, but she may have been born after the 1851 census.

1851 Census - Tooting Court, Marylebone
James Hatchard, age 27, born Marylebone
Sarah Hatchard, age 23, born Marylebone
James Hatchard, age 4, born Marylebone
+others

Ref HO107; Piece 1489; Folio 640; Page 17; Schedule 154
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGF8-JCN


Baptism
name: James Hatchard
baptised: 28 Sep 1846; St Marylebone
father: James Hatchard?; green grocer
mother: Sarah Lake
born: 14 Sep 1846

Burial
name: James Hatchard
buried: 08 Jul 1852; St Marylebone
age: 30
abode: Tooting Court

Possible GRO BMD references:
1851 Q2 Birth - Eliza Hatchard (mmn: Lake); Marylebone; 1; 240
1852 Q3 Death - James Hatchard; age 29 (born c1823); Marylebone; 1A; 271

Couldn't find birth ref for James, born c1846.


EDIT: Added burial for James Hatchard
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