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Re: Does anyone know what this word is in the Will (Welsh)
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 09 October 21 16:59 BST (UK) »
William can be readily found 1861 - use 1851 YoB!

At last, no disputing farm name.
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Does anyone know what this word is in the Will (Welsh)
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 October 21 17:18 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thanks for the info on the Tithe map i.e 1839 so that ties in nicely with the 1841 census.

Richard's Will was written on 14th February 1846, just 4 days before he died on the 18th February 1846, so that means William was still at the same farm then.

1851 Census, I had the very same page (HO107) open when you sent yours so I am going with that to see how it fits.

There's a marriage between William Davies and Mary Coslet in 1842 in Llandilofawr.

Sorry but can't find him in 1861 Census.

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Re: Does anyone know what this word is in the Will (Welsh)
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 09 October 21 18:17 BST (UK) »
I'm searching FindMyPast.
Just "William Davies" in Name, "1801 +/-2" in age and "Llanfihangel Aberbythych" in location returns William in 1861, 1871 and 1881 - address unchanged.

S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.


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Re: Does anyone know what this word is in the Will (Welsh)
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 October 21 18:38 BST (UK) »
Hi
I tried to find the 1861 Cenus on Find My Past and I couldn't find it. Just tried Ancestry and it found it straightaway. Tried again and no luck, although you said use his age from 1851 Census which was 1809.

The one I found on Ancestry I think maybe the right one, as it has Mary's dad Thomas Coset as the Head and living in Llandeybie. Thomas Coset was mentioned in 1851 Census.

Yes he must have married another Mary so need to look into that.

Maybe the 1851 Census we have is or isn't the right census then. Ages don't fit in...

Your 1861 census is better as their daughter Mary is more or less the same age and they are in the same area.


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Re: Does anyone know what this word is in the Will (Welsh)
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 09 October 21 18:45 BST (UK) »
In 1851 the Census has William age 50 - address "Llettyrenen Uchaf".
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Does anyone know what this word is in the Will (Welsh)
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 09 October 21 19:50 BST (UK) »
Putting Lletyriwen in Google produces links  to the Tithe maps and Welsh newspapers*.

* add - somewhere in this notice-

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3324965


One of the lots in the sale of the Pant Glas estate on 11 Sept 1821

 Lot 21. A DWELLING-HOUSE, Blacksmith's Shop. and Two Gardens, with Three-fourths of a Meadow,; together with an Allotment oi Court-Henry Common, called Lettyriwen, containing 4A. 2R. in the occupation of Sarah Williams, as tenant from year to year, at the annual rent of 8l 8s.

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Re: Does anyone know what this word is in the Will (Welsh)
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 09 October 21 20:24 BST (UK) »
That's the Lletty'r ywen on the 1st map I posted - subsequently replaced by Tithe Map findings..
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.