Thankyou Maidenstone for the link...
I would like to say thats our Martin...however Im confused as the Marriage fits and the bap fits for one child, however looking through the list for Aunagarry Killorglin Kerry there are 8 Martin Currane as Sponsors, there are 3 Martin Currane as witness to marriages....could this Martin the Sponsor and witness be Martins Father???
I see at the end for Mother of Child says Ellen, could this be Helen
I'm not clear which one you think was "our Martin".
Curran is a common Irish surname. Martin, a fairly common forename in Ireland.
Some surnames and some forenames were locally common to certain counties or areas of counties e.g. my grandma's surname is local to County Mayo and her forename was very popular in her district around the time of her birth. Her mother's forename and surname were even more common and since GGM was born before civil registration of births and her marriage pre-dated civil registration, I don't know which of 6 babies baptised in the parish around the time she was born was her.
Witnesses and sponsors named Martin Curran may have been close relatives, or less close relatives such as cousin, uncle, or unrelated if it was a locally common surname. One Martin Curran might have had several relatives also named Martin Curran if Martin was a significant name in a Curran family. Traditional Irish naming patterns often resulted in several members of an extended family having the same forename.
Ellen/Helen was interchangeable. Latin form in church registers may be Helena or Eleanora (Eleanor). A short form is Nellie/Nelly.
