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James Joseph Fitzgerald
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 11:53 BST (UK) »
I have a query over a date of birth of James Joseph Fitzgerald. His navy records give 14 May 1891 & place of birth as Minane Bridge Co Cork. The 1939 register has 14 May 1892. The 1911 census has him in Devonport aged 19 and place of birth as Tracton. I suspect he may have made himself older to join the navy, Please can anyone confirm the date & give any further information on the family?

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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 12:19 BST (UK) »
Have you found him in the Ireland 1901 census ?

Have you looked for his birth registration on https://www.irishgenealogy.ie  ?
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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 13:25 BST (UK) »

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.......place of birth as Minane Bridge Co Cork.
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......and place of birth as Tracton.

The townland of Minane in Tracton civil parish - adjoins Minane Bridge.
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/kinalea/tracton/kilpatrick/minane/

The S.R.D. is Kinsale.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4849232#map=13/51.7343/-8.4241

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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 16:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you both.
Yes I have the family on the 1901 census, I think, age 7 so doesn't help with 1891/1892 query. Father James is a Merchant Sailor.
Unable to find his birth on irishgenealogy.ie. but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place! Have found what I think is parents marriage in city of Cork.

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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 16:30 BST (UK) »
.....I have the family on the 1901 census, I think, age 7 so doesn't help with 1891/1892 query. Father James is a Merchant Sailor.

Here's the link for others-
House 32 in Ballinluska (Templebrady, Cork).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Templebrady/Ballinluska/1120915/

Have found what I think is parents marriage in city of Cork.

Is this the one you found?
James Fitzgerald to Margaret Spillane in 1885. However it's in Tracton RC Church. The image is very poor quality but it's been reported to I.G.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10878/5973253.pdf

MMN Spillane confirmed by birth record of son Patrick in 1899.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02034/1779796.pdf

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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 16:41 BST (UK) »

If you've found James in the 1911 census in Devonport, then the family in reply #4 is not the correct one.

Here's James aged 17 in the 1911 census again in Ballinluska (Templebreedy, Cork).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Templebreedy/Ballinluska/418604/

Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 19:39 BST (UK) »
Does the 1939 Register show a wife? if he married in England then father's name & occupation should be listed.

Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 23:32 BST (UK) »
Here is another Fitzgerald family in the same townland - house no 21 with 9 yr old James.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Templebrady/Ballinluska/1120905/

And 1911 - no James
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Templebreedy/Ballinluska/418591/

James’ birth record needs some deciphering - read the amendment on the side.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02383/1889356.pdf

The date of birth is in May 1891 but not quite the same as in the other records.  The residence is Fountainstown at birth.
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Re: James Joseph Fitzgerald
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 October 21 23:48 BST (UK) »
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