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Offline Helina

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Baptism x 2?
« on: Thursday 14 October 21 08:34 BST (UK) »
Is it possible for someone to be baptised twice?  Frederick James Cooper born on the 8th January 1870, parents James and Emily Cooper was baptised on the 30th May 1870 at Warmley Gloucestershire, no name of church.  On the 23rd January 1888 age 18, he appears to have been baptised again at St Barnabas church Warmley, could be same church as in 1870. Parents James and Emily Cooper.

Maybe Frederick was baptised at home the first time?

Any ideas

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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 October 21 08:54 BST (UK) »
Have the same situation in my family but i know its reason. My grandmother baptised as Catholic when she was born,  then re-baptised as Orthodox to marry with my grandfather.
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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 October 21 10:33 BST (UK) »
It appears from GENUKI that there was only one church in Warmley in the period.

I did note that the first baptism on family search only recorded the name of Frederick, not Frederick James. Did the first child die I wonder?

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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 October 21 10:47 BST (UK) »
I have just noticed on the 1881 census that Emily is a widow at Warmley Tower, Siston (Gloucs), Keynsham, Gloucestershire, with 9 children present Frederick is 11. Emily and the last entry on the list below?

Emily   Cooper   Head   Widow   Female   42   1839   Staymaker   Wick, Gloucestershire

Henry   Vacker   Father   Married   Male   78   1803   Painter   Winchester, Hampshire

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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 October 21 13:41 BST (UK) »
Yes Colc, Emily and James had another son called Frederick born 1866, died 1868 so this Frederick can be ruled out.

James Cooper (the father) died in 1878.  The 9 children were:

Phoebe Amelia b 1861
Albert Wesley b 1863
Emily Jane b 1864
Frederick 1866-1868
William Henry b 1868
Frederick James b 1870
Alice b 1872
Kate b 1874
Florence b 1876

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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 October 21 14:05 BST (UK) »
There are many threads on RootsChat about the topic of 2 baptisms. You should be able to find some by searching for a title such as "Baptised twice". *
There could be several reasons for a person having 2 baptism ceremonies and these have been discussed on other threads. Note: 2 ceremonies not 2 baptisms.
As Frederick was 18 at the time of the 2nd ceremony:
It may have been in preparation for confirmation;
He may have become interested in religion in his teens;
He may have been influenced by friends, a girl, employer or someone he respected.   

*Added. Search for title "baptised twice" on Beginners' board and Common Room found 15 threads.
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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 October 21 15:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maiden Stone and Colc

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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 October 21 11:01 BST (UK) »
Is it possible for someone to be baptised twice? 

Certainly.  A female ancestor of my wife was born in late 1835 in rural Northumberland and baptised locally by an itinerant presbyterian minister in January.  Later that year a new parish church opened and she was re-baptised there in December - though I suppose it may have been a 'Received' ceremony.
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Re: Baptism x 2?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 October 21 12:59 BST (UK) »
My great gran was baptised in Oxford in 1895 as a baby then baptised again in London in 1910 when she lived in a Hackney convent for a time.
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