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Ellens parents?
« on: Friday 15 October 21 09:49 BST (UK) »
I have from the 1841 census, Samuel Ellis age 40, Mary 25 and Ellen 3, Ellens parents are listed as Samuel and Mary but i cant find a marriage. Is the 40 yr old the father or another Sam? Listed as living in Rock. Any info appreciated!
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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 October 21 09:55 BST (UK) »
Family relationships are not defined on the 1841 census, therefore Mary may or may not be Samuel's wife or daughter. 
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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 October 21 09:57 BST (UK) »
1851 has Samuel 53, Mary 34 & Ellen 13, Samuel and Mary listed as Married
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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 October 21 10:04 BST (UK) »
However, the 1851 census - HO107/1997 folio 384 page 7 would indicate that Ellen is their daughter.

Samuel - 53
Mary - 34
Ellen - 13
Martha - 8
Samuel - 4
Eliza - 5 months

GRO - December quarter 1850 - Wellington RD - Eliza Ellis - mother's maiden name Millington.

Samuel - June quarter 1847 - mmn Millington
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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 October 21 10:05 BST (UK) »
Baptism gives date of birth as 17 November 1838

Birth Dec qtr 1838 
Ellis    Ellen        Wellington Salop    18   174

ADDED - sisters birth registration
ELLIS, ELIZA    mmn    MILLINGTON 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in WELLINGTON (SALOP) UNION  Volume 18  Page 177
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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 October 21 10:07 BST (UK) »
1851 has Samuel 53, Mary 34 & Ellen 13, Samuel and Mary listed as Married
Ok so he is the father! Any sign of a marriage i wonder? Thanks Rosie i presume he was married previously at some point
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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 October 21 10:09 BST (UK) »
Samuel Ellis married Mary Millington December qtr 1839
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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 October 21 10:09 BST (UK) »
12 Dece 1839, Wellington
Samuel ELLISS of Rock, Miner, father John a Collier
Mary MILLINGTON of Stickly, father John a Labourer

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Re: Ellens parents?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 October 21 10:10 BST (UK) »
However, the 1851 census - HO107/1997 folio 384 page 7 would indicate that Ellen is their daughter.

Samuel - 53
Mary - 34
Ellen - 13
Martha - 8
Samuel - 4
Eliza - 5 months

GRO - December quarter 1850 - Wellington RD - Eliza Ellis - mother's maiden name Millington.

Samuel - June quarter 1847 - mmn Millington
Thanks bumble, she was a Millington.
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