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Hartford family
« on: Friday 15 October 21 10:09 BST (UK) »
Looking for parents of John Hartford
born Carlton, Victoria 1916   Vic bdm - only lists mother as Mary Hartford - no father listed
however war records say 13 June 1917
Newspaper death notice for son (Donald) of John Hartford 3rd December 1943 mentions grandmother of Donald as Mrs M Watts
I am thinking this is Mary Hartford - mother of John
Looking for a marriage and a death record of Mary
Any suggestions greatly appreciated, thanks ..... Alison

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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 October 21 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hello
I think I have an answer for you but you'll have to forgive me Ancestry is down so I've had to go with FindMyPast and it's not my usual go to for Australia.

There is a death for a Mary Watts 1960 age 67 ,Father George Hartford .Mother Rachel Brown at Broo Victoria . Reg 10758.

Can't spot a marriage or other children for her and Mr Watts.
Will carry on looking

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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 October 21 11:34 BST (UK) »
From the death ciderdrinker found there is this marriage
16 May 1942 St Peters Eastern Hill Melbourne Bourke Victoria
John Joseph Watts  age 35 bachelor
Mary Alston (widow )age 46 her address 13,Finsbury Street Newmarket
Father George Hartford deceased (bricklayer )
Mother Rachel Brown

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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 October 21 11:39 BST (UK) »
This looks like her first marriage possibility
Mary Harford
Jacob Alston
1937 Victoria Australia

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Added not sure now about this one as looking at the marriage record to John Joseph Watts it has Mary widow 3/2/1937  ???

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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 October 21 22:43 BST (UK) »
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history
 - I cannot find the Alston marriage on the Victoria site.

Michael James Alston died 2nd February 1937. He is listed as the husband of Mary and father of "Johnnie"
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206181086?searchTerm=%22Michael%20James%20Alston%22

His middle name is Jacob at his birth, so possibly the reference that Rosie has found is correct.

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx
 - there is a record here for a John Alston (crossed out, replaced with Hartford), whose mother was listed as Mary Alston.
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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 October 21 23:07 BST (UK) »
I awoke this morning to the wonderful three responses, thanks so much to each of you
I will spend the morning looking at the information you have so kindly shared
Thanks heaps, bye for now, have to go look with excitement, regards ........ Alison

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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 October 21 00:00 BST (UK) »
I found both Mary and John Watts buried at Fawkner in same grave, thanks again .......... Alison

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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 October 21 01:55 BST (UK) »
I don't seem to have any luck with Vic BDM website - searches yield nothing

There is a Lydia Lewer marrying James Alston and a 1919 divorce for Michael James and Lydia Alston 1919 (haven't seen documents) tried to search PROV - no luck but would be interesting to read
Lydia Alston living in North Melbourne 1914
James Michael Alston living in North Melbourne 1926 ...
Mary Alston living in North Melbourne 1931 - 1934 - don't know the addresses

Is there a reference number for the 1937 marriage of Mary Harford (spelling) and Jas Alston?

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Re: Hartford family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 October 21 06:20 BST (UK) »
Reference number 1659
Mary Harford
Jacob Alston

Divorce papers for Michael and Lydia  are on Ancestry if you have access

Rosie