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GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« on: Friday 15 October 21 16:58 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know how I can get more information on the baptism, parents or family of Karl Frederik Reiner who says he was born in Mannheim, Germany in or around 1804?

I have found him in England when he marries Sarah Elizabeth Wickes at Thames Ditton in 1830. He had changed his name to Charles Frederick Reiner.
From then on I have found him in Census's from 1841 until he dies in 1884.

On the Census's he says he is from Baden Germany.

I know nothing about German records so any help gratefully received.

Thank you

Judy
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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 October 21 17:52 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has this record for your consideration:

Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
Name:   Friedrich Carl Reiner
Baptism Age:   0
Birth Date:   13. Okt 1804 (13 Oct 1804)
Baptism Date:   14. Okt 1804 (14 Oct 1804)
Baptism Place:   Mannheim (A. Mannheim), Baden, Germany
Residence Place:   Mannheim, Baden, Germany
Father:   Friedrich Reiner
Mother:   Josephe Caroline Priese
FHL Film Number:   1192144

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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 October 21 18:47 BST (UK) »
Dear Hillhurst,

Thank you so  much for that. That birth/baptism would seem to fit in.

Are you by any chance able to let me know if he has siblings?

Much appreciated

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 October 21 18:53 BST (UK) »
Sorry, no I didn't see any records for siblings, nor a marriage for his parents. However, I only searched for a few minutes, concentrating on Baden.

Which source of yours indicates he changed his name from Karl to Charles? Just curious...


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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 October 21 18:54 BST (UK) »
Another question: Would his father have been a teacher, as well?

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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 October 21 19:07 BST (UK) »
The sources is Census's and Nationalisation Records.

I am researching for a friend and they have been looking for ages but the Nationalisation Records clinched it.
And family recall.

How do you know his father was a teacher?

Judy
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WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
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DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 October 21 19:17 BST (UK) »
How do you know his father was a teacher?

Actually I asked you if his father was also a teacher. I wouldn't know, you see.

If your friend doesn't have an Ancestry subscription, perhaps they could use the Family Search site, which is free. FS has some German record sets.

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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 October 21 19:26 BST (UK) »
 :D I don't know if his father was a teacher.

I have looked on the Family Search site but haven't got anything that helped. I find the search is much more difficult since they changed it.

Thank you again for the suggestion. I will go back to the FS site and see if there is anything I have missed.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: GERMANY Help with Karl Fredrik Reiner c1804
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 October 21 21:55 BST (UK) »
I'm not a fan of the new FS searching interface either. I'll have a bit more time this weekend to search Ancestry for any additional Reiner records. I asked if his father was also a Teacher, in case it helps narrow down possible father leads. Who knows...teaching may have been the family profession.

I've checked Ancestry's England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869 collection, but nothing jumped out at me. Unless he entered the UK prior to 1826 and/or used a slightly different name.

Do the Nationalisation documents indicate what year he entered the UK? Do they mention any family names back in Germany? Any little detail will help, you see.