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What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« on: Thursday 21 October 21 07:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I've got a copy of a ship's passenger list with a group that shares my surname (and, apparently, there are DNA links). I'm trying to figure out where these individuals are from. This is the page showing the passenger list:
https://www.public-juling.de/passagierlisten/listen.php?ArchivIdent=STAB-24.10.1908_4,57/5-60_M&start=151&pers=&ankunftshafen=New%20York&abreisehafen=Bremen&lang=en

The individuals (a family) are lines 104-109. The 'State or Province' as Suwalki makes sense (a 'county' in northern Poland). Russland, makes sense, as at the time much of this region was within the Russian sphere of influence.

Jewszany is the part that is giving me trouble. It doesn't appear to be a city (at least I can find nothing). I've seen 'zhany' appear in place names throughout Central Europe, so I wonder if 'zany' might be a variant.

The more interesting part, for me, is 'Jewes'. I'm wondering whether this indicates that they were Jewish. In my family research, I've found a few things that point to the possibility that my father's family may have converted to Catholicism when they arrived in the US, but I've never found anything 'concrete'.

So, does anyone know what "Jeweszany" might mean?

Thanks

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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 October 21 10:26 BST (UK) »
You have two spellings :-Jews and Jewes , do they
 appear different on your documents?
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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 October 21 10:28 BST (UK) »
Sorry, the two spellings are simply my bad typing. It appears as "Jeweszany" in the document.

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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 October 21 11:00 BST (UK) »
Wikipedia entry on Suwalki Region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suwa%C5%82ki_Region) states:

The 1897 Russian Census recorded the linguistic composition of local towns:

    Augustów – Polish (46.2%), Jewish (28.5%), Russian (18.7%), Lithuanian (0.2%);
    Suwałki – Polish (38.7% ), Jewish (32.9%), Russian, (21.6%), Lithuanian (0.5%);
    Sejny – Jewish (50.8%), Polish (40.4%), Lithuanian (4.2%), Russian (2.5%).
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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 October 21 11:28 BST (UK) »
Could it be a heard version of Jez. Wizajny (Lake Wizajny)?
It is in Suwalki. Modern day very north east tip of Poland.
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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 October 21 11:55 BST (UK) »

The more interesting part, for me, is 'Jewes'. I'm wondering whether this indicates that they were Jewish. In my family research, I've found a few things that point to the possibility that my father's family may have converted to Catholicism when they arrived in the US, but I've never found anything 'concrete'.

Thanks

This document is written in German; the German word for Jew is Jude, so I don't think your speculation that Jewes implies Jew is correct. Doesn't mean they weren't Jewish of course!
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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 October 21 12:53 BST (UK) »
https://www.public-juling.de/passagierlisten/listen.php?ArchivIdent=STAB-24.10.1908_4,57/5-60_M&start=151&pers=&ankunftshafen=New%20York&abreisehafen=Bremen&lang=en

The link above is a transcription, the original document needs to be seen to confirm the spelling is Jeweszany.


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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 October 21 14:18 BST (UK) »
Could the place name be something like "Juczkany"? Although I'm not sure about 3rd letter.

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Re: What/where is Jeweszany, Russland?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 October 21 15:03 BST (UK) »
here's what it looked like on the passenger manifest.