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Identify Uniform Please Brooklyn
« on: Saturday 23 October 21 17:13 BST (UK) »
I would appreciate help in identifying this uniform. The photograph was taken in Brooklyn. Thank you, Ita
Lacy/McDonnell/Kinshela - Tinahely, Wicklow
Doherty/Gara/Diver/Manelis -   Glencolmbkille, Donegal
Boyle - Crolly/ Dore, Donegal
Lacey - Rathangan, Kildare
Boland/McDonnell/Kelly/Hynes - Kilmaley/Ennis, Clare
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Re: Identify Uniform Please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 October 21 17:35 BST (UK) »

You've posted in Armed Forces Resources which is for resources not queries. I've asked a moderator to move this thread to the Armed Forces Board.

Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Identify Uniform Please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 October 21 19:06 BST (UK) »
My apologies - and thank you. Ita
Lacy/McDonnell/Kinshela - Tinahely, Wicklow
Doherty/Gara/Diver/Manelis -   Glencolmbkille, Donegal
Boyle - Crolly/ Dore, Donegal
Lacey - Rathangan, Kildare
Boland/McDonnell/Kelly/Hynes - Kilmaley/Ennis, Clare
Connolly/Conneely/Kerrigan/Kane/O'Malley - Leenane/Clifden, Galway
Kerrigan/O'Malley/Berry - Louisburgh, Mayo


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Re: Identify Uniform Please Brooklyn
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 October 21 23:53 BST (UK) »
The Cap Badge, though hard to make out, might be crossed rifles, which would indicate an Infantry Soldier.
Likewise crossed swords would indicate a Cavalry Soldier. The Regiment Number typically appears on the top of the Badge.



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Re: Identify Uniform Please Brooklyn
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 October 21 00:11 BST (UK) »
Does this help?
Lacy/McDonnell/Kinshela - Tinahely, Wicklow
Doherty/Gara/Diver/Manelis -   Glencolmbkille, Donegal
Boyle - Crolly/ Dore, Donegal
Lacey - Rathangan, Kildare
Boland/McDonnell/Kelly/Hynes - Kilmaley/Ennis, Clare
Connolly/Conneely/Kerrigan/Kane/O'Malley - Leenane/Clifden, Galway
Kerrigan/O'Malley/Berry - Louisburgh, Mayo

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Re: Identify Uniform Please Brooklyn
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 October 21 06:55 BST (UK) »
https://history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf

The above Link is for a PDF download of American Service Uniforms and Kit, throughout the ages.

I'm not too familiar with this Subject Matter, but the download gives valuable information on how Uniform Dress changed over the years. The Soldier depicted in the photograph appears to be Infantry, as the Cap Badge shows crossed Rifles. The top Coat appears to be the old style colour blue, which was gradually superceded by Khaki from 1902, though was continued to be worn by some Artillery and Engineering servicemen, until stocks ran out, approximately by 1911. As yet I cannot identify the Regimental Cap and Collar Badges.

Add: From information in the above Link, the Uniform Style could date from the mid 1890's. It was also adopted by the New York National Guard, begining around 1896.
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
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Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
LeFebvere, Lincolnshire

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Re: Identify Uniform Please Brooklyn
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 October 21 18:03 BST (UK) »
Looking at the photograph again, I believe this copy might have been printed back to front. The cap badge appears to show the Regiment Number in Roman Numerals, i.e., IIV. Reversed this would show VII, representing the number seven.

This would correspond to the Seventh Regiment of New York. The letter 'L' on the collar, I believe represents the Company, associated with the Regiment. I have seen some letter 'L' Company's described as Artillery.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/31388/

The above Ancestry Link describes the History of The New York 7th Regiment, and plenty more information can been gleaned from the W.W.W.

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Re: Identify Uniform Please Brooklyn
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 October 21 18:10 BST (UK) »
If the photo is a reversed image, then wouldn’t the letters “L” be pointing the other way?
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Re: Identify Uniform Please Brooklyn
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 October 21 18:22 BST (UK) »
If the photo is a reversed image, then wouldn’t the letters “L” be pointing the other way?

Good point ES, I should have spotted that. The Roman Numerals still don't make sense, as depicted. The New York Seventh Regiment were known as the 'Silk Stocking Brigade', and this can clearly be noted by the trouser dress on the Uniform. However, the Collar letter 'L' reversed throws a spanner in the works, unless it's some other decoration not depicting the Company.
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
Naylor/Nailor, Lyons, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire
Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
LeFebvere, Lincolnshire