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Hello there i have seen threads from people who have been researching my family.
Sarah nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick is my GGG Grandmother.
Trying to trace how she arrived in the UK from Jamaica, her mother Milly McFatter(?) what happened to her? and more about Samuel Hilton who appears to be my GGGG Grandfather.
Sarahs son William Cecil Fenwick was my Great grandmothers father, her name was Julia May Fenwick.
I believe Samuel Hiltons final resting place is St Anns Church Stanley and i have seen a picture of his headstone.
Perhaps someone is a relative of Sarahs sister who was older than her  - Margaret Hilton married Thomas Gardner who was the first vicar at St Anns Church Stanley ? they may know what happened. I would also love to see any photos. I have photos of Julia May Fenwick.
 Please get in touch have lots of questions about my heritage.Victoria

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Re: Samuel Hilton, Milly McFatter, Sarah (Nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick) Thelwell
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 October 21 10:03 BST (UK) »
Can you give some dates please, will be a big help

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Re: Samuel Hilton, Milly McFatter, Sarah (Nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick) Thelwell
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 October 21 10:34 BST (UK) »
Thank  you, saw  that just  now
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
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Sondes kent and London


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Re: Samuel Hilton, Milly McFatter, Sarah (Nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick) Thelwell
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 October 21 20:27 BST (UK) »
Hello Louisamaud

So these are dates i have so far...

Samuel Hiltons parents? or was it Samuel Hylton?

Samuel Hilton (?Born in Jamaica 1790-1839 d.20th April 1839 or Nov 14th 1928) father to Sarah Hilton and her ?biological sister Margaret who married Rev Thomas Gardener d. 19/5/1881.
Gravestone at St Anns church Stanley Liverpool.

1839 Sarah Hilton would have been about 10years old when her father died  - ?still living in Jamaica with her mother?

? Mother Emily or Amelia McFatter to Sarah Hilton. This lady seems to be documented as a slave to Samuel Barrett - is McFatter the owners name? ? freed how, when, what happened to her, did she move with her daughters to the UK? Parish of St James County of Cornwall Jamaica 1831/32. Where are her family i would love to know. Seems Cinamon Hill house mentioned and also ROse Hall with the Barrett Family. Samuel Hilton appears to be a lawyer?? how long what for.... any shipping records of him travelling to and from UK?

When did Sarah Hilton and Margaret Hilton moved to UK?

bn 1826 or maybe 1829 Montego Bay Jamaica, Sarah Hilton  (Sister Margaret Hilton bn Jamaica 1811 Montego Bay?)

1834 Margaret Hilton ( Sarahs sister married Thomas Gardner 23-9-1834 in England.

What happened to Sarah Hilton between birth and 1851?

1851 Sarah Hilton 21yrs b.1830 Montego Bay Jamaica living at Stanley Parsonage Prescot Road West Derby - must be with her sister Margaret Gardner 40 yrs, Thomas Gardner 50 and their 8 children

1861 Census Sarah Fenwick(31) & Henry Fenwick (43 yrs lawyer) live with Margaret fenwick b.1853(8), William C Fenwick b.1857(4) & Mary E Fenwick b.1859(2) plus servants, So Emmeline and Collingwood had not been born at this time or Mary E Fenwick is Emmeline as she is in the 1871 census with same birth date...

5th Feb 1868 Henry Fenwick dies in Gloucester perhaps away on work

The 1871 Census Sarah (neeHilton) bn. Jamaica @ 16 Welfield Place Tox Park. Lawyers widow(Henry Fenwick)

1871 Census W.C Fenwick at Claremony School, CLairmont road Liverpool - he is 14yrs old

 1871 Census search: Sarah Fenwick bn Jamaica 1853(?mistake) as this makes her 18.. and no Henry Fenwick living with them as he died 5 Feb1868
living with William Cecil Fenwick(14), Collingwood Fenwick(9), Emmeline Fenwick bn.1859(12) living at Wellfield Place Lancashire
https://www.rootspoint.com/record/1871-UK-Census/Sarah-Fenwick-1853-Jamaica/091dff5e-1c2f-4870-9bd9-f5e9c56f68d7/

1873 Sarah M Thelwell 28th July married  St PAuls Southport to Edward Mostyn THewell(b. 1844 D. 1899) Mildura Victoria Australia. He abandoned her from what i read and went to Australia where he died. Witnesses were Samul Hilton, Eveline Fenwick ? or perhpas this is a mistake and its her daughter Emmeline Fenwick and others...

1881 Census Sarah lived with Collingwood ? William Cecil and Emmeline?

1881 Sarahs sister Margaret Gardeners husband Rev Thomas Gardener (1801 - 19/5/1881) passes away

1884 -  Mary Emmeline ORMEROD (Nee Fenwick) married to Frank William ORMEROD and their little girl Dorothea Hylton ORMEROD born Nov 1883 and registered in Fulham district Mar Q 1884. Here is perhaps her son, seems they were in USA. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/oliver-ormerod-jensen-24-9clf59
? Gravestone:https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/151020960/dorothea-hilton-jensen

I wonder if HYLTON could be the correct spelling not HILTON - need a marriage/birth certificate.

1891 Sarah Martyn Thelwell 65yrs (Nee Hilton) Birth 1826? Birthplace Jamaica. Llangollen. Resident Lenhunt Llangollen. Looks like she lived here with her son Collingwood R Fenwick bn.1862 29yrs. Collingwood born in Liverpool? lived in Lancashire then Llangollen.

1901 Census Sarah Martyn Thelwell, Jamaica British Subject b.1829. Leahurst, Llangollen Urton. A Boarder. No other Fenwick living with her?

When and who does Dr Cecil Fenwick marry?

1901 His daughter is born Julia M Fenwick ( ? her mother Caroline L Fenwick b1871) 1901 Census states Caroline 30yrs, living in same boarding house as Julia May 10months old, 43 Hortham Road, Islington, London. I've no marriage cert yet or any information on Caroline Fenwick.

1902 Dr Cecil Fenwick b.1857 Waventree Lancashire d. Feb 2nd 1902 Llangollen
Married to? These are the parents of my G Grandmother Julia M Fenwich b.

Look forward to any enlightenment! This is all very exciting piecing together my family:)) Victoria

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Re: Samuel Hilton, Milly McFatter, Sarah (Nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick) Thelwell
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 October 21 20:56 BST (UK) »
Marriage
1st March 1900
Oswestry St Oswalds
William Cecil Fenwick 43 bachelor Surgeon   Springfield, Llangollen
Father   Henry Fenwick Lawyer
Caroline Louisa Evans 28 spinster  22 Church Street, Oswestry
Father  George Soley Evans Ironmonger
By Licence, all signed
Witnesses Geo Soley Evans & John Evans
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Re: Samuel Hilton, Milly McFatter, Sarah (Nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick) Thelwell
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 October 21 21:10 BST (UK) »
1901 census
Leahurst, Llangollen
William C Fenwick Boarder married 44 born 1857 Wavertree  Surgeon & physician
With Sarah Thelwell born 1929 Jamaica

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Re: Samuel Hilton, Milly McFatter, Sarah (Nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick) Thelwell
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 October 21 21:25 BST (UK) »
Birth of Julia ?

Female Fenwick
Jun 1900
Holywell
mmn Evans

ADDED
Baptism
22nd July 1900
All Saints, Notting Hill
Julia May, daughter of William Cecil & Caroline Louisa Fenwick
Occupation of father Surgeon, of 17 Colville Terrace

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Re: Samuel Hilton, Milly McFatter, Sarah (Nee Maynard Hilton Fenwick) Thelwell
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