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Re: 1767 French marriage
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 04 November 21 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Just a query in the translation.

The second line '....marie sollemnellement  en face de l'eglise.....' seems to say they were married 'in front of the church', which gives me a picture of them all standing outside on the steps of the church to have the marriage ceremony. This is probably incorrect!
So does 'en face' in this context have a slightly different meaning? One would think it would be inside the church.

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Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1767 French marriage
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 04 November 21 21:34 GMT (UK) »
wikipedia (in French):
L'expression mariage en face de l'église doit être prise dans le sens : suivant les rites, en présence de l'autorité de l'Église. La cérémonie du mariage avait toujours lieu à l'intérieur de l'église
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariage_en_face_de_l%27%C3%A9glise

Translation: This expression must be understood in the sense: according to the rites, in the presence of the authority of the Church. The wedding ceremony always took place inside the church

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Re: 1767 French marriage
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 November 21 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for that Zefiro.
I thought it must have a wider meaning than 'in front of the church'.

Did you catch my other queries on this post? you may be able to shed some light.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854994.msg7232007#msg7232007
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: 1767 French marriage
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 November 21 20:47 GMT (UK) »
The correct name should be Antoine Monfiliette. If I had checked the signatures I would have seen this earlier.

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Re: 1767 French marriage
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 07 November 21 07:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Zefiro.

Antoine or Antoinette as was first thought?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1767 French marriage
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 07 November 21 11:42 GMT (UK) »
My initial reading was Antoinette Monfiliatre. After checking the signature in your other topic https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854924.msg7231132#msg7231132
I now clearly read Antoine Monfiliette. The surname has changed, but also the gender, since Antoine is a male name and Antoinette is female.

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Re: 1767 French marriage
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 07 November 21 20:34 GMT (UK) »
My initial reading was Antoinette Monfiliatre. After checking the signature in your other topic https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854924.msg7231132#msg7231132
I now clearly read Antoine Monfiliette. The surname has changed, but also the gender, since Antoine is a male name and Antoinette is female.

Thanks Zefiro.  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs