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1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« on: Tuesday 02 November 21 20:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I am trying to find info on a Barbara McKinstry who emigrated from N Ireland to USA, don't know when. I have located a Barbara McKinstry in the 1930 US census living in Philadelphia. The problem is there are only 3 people showing on the census sheet for their household, and they are all children;
Archibald McMurray aged 8, Gloria McMurray age 0 and Barbara McKinstry aged 14. Their details are at the very top of the census page, so the other members of the household must be at the bottom of the previous page, but I cannot locate the previous page.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Paul

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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 20:16 GMT (UK) »
It’s here on Family Search
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01r1a/

Barbara is on page 3 and the pages are out of sync.
Archibald and Margaret McMurray are at the foot of page 6.
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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Not a very common last name. Age is right.

The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
02 Apr 1941, Wed  •  Page 20

Marriage Licence Applications-
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/88230047/barbara-mckinstry-marriage/


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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks  heywood and RJ. Much appreciated. Not sure at this stage if it is the Barbara McKinstry I am looking for, but it's a big help.

Paul.

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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Paul, do you have any additional facts about “your” Barbara, please, that might help us find her?
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry has this record image which includes a photo of the lady:

Pennsylvania, U.S., Federal Naturalization Records, 1795-1931
Name:   Barbara Ellen Mckinstry
Race:   White
Declaration Age:   21
Record Type:   Naturalization Declaration
Birth Date:   3 Sep 1915
Birth Place:   Belfast, Ireland
Arrival Date:   22 Jul 1928
Arrival Place:   New York City, New York
Declaration Date:   12 Jul 1937
Declaration Place:   Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Declaration Number:   143973
Has Photo:   Yes

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name:   Barbara Ellen McKinstry [Barbara Ellen Kennedy]
Birth Date:   3 Sep 1915
Birth Place:   Belfast, Republic of Ireland
Death Date:   14 Oct 2000
Father:   William H McKinstry
Mother:   Mary J Hydes

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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 23:14 GMT (UK) »

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1940 Census Philadelphia
at 1904 E Monmouth
William McKinstry, 51, born in Ireland
  Elizabeth, wife, 40, born in Pennsylvania
  Barbara, 24, born Northern Ireland
  Patricia, 16, b NI
  William, 13, NI
  David, 5 Pennsylvania
  John, 4, Pennsylvania
  Elizabeth, 1, Pennsylvania
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQX7-VLQ

Barbara Ellen McKinstry, of that address
naturalized November 6, 1940, in Philadelphia
her father, same address is two images higher, naturalized in 1938

in between is a Joseph McKinstry, b about 1894, with no wife but 3 minor children at home.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXF7-PKK

New York Arrivals
SS Cameronia, left from Londonderry 14 July 1928
Mary Jane McKinstry, 36, housewife
Barbara [Ellen?], 13
Patricia, 4

for all: place of birth and last residence: Belfast
nearest relative in Ireland: Mary Jane's father, Mr James Hyde of Donegal Cottage, Cavehill, Belfast
destination: Mary Jane's husband, Mr William McKinstry, 1206 Unity St, Philadelphia

[this should be at familysearch somewhere]

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Births in Belfast, Antrim
3 September 1915
at 18 McTier St,
Barbara Ellen McKinstry, daughter of William Henry, a laborer at that address, and Mary Jane McKinstry, maiden name Hydes. informant: the mother, of that address

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01370/1564735.pdf

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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 23:17 GMT (UK) »
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UK Outward Passenger Lists
left Londonderry 14 July 1928 SS Cameronia
Mary McKinstry, 36
Barbara, 13
Patricia, 4
William, 2
all of Donegal Cottage, Cavehill Rd, Belfast


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back to look for William arriving.

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Re: 1930 US Census - Need help finding 'other half' of census return
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 November 21 23:27 GMT (UK) »
son William on the same ship
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:246B-1SR

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1930 Census of Philadelphia
household of Barbara McMurray, 44, divorced
William McKinstry, her brother, 42, widower, dye worker
Samuel McKinstry, her brother, 41
Patricia McKinstry, 6, daughter
William McKinstry, 3, son

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHWD-QSV