Edward and Frances Bateup

[CrystalPalace]

I have both Edward and Frances Bateup in my family tree.
Edward Bateup married Jane Cobby 21.5.1744 at West Grinstead and Frances Bateup married Thomas Feist 28.12.1747 also at West Grinstead.
I have tried various spellings (Batup, Baytop, Batchup, Baittup) but have been unable to find a baptism for either and wondered if anyone had come across this family?

I found baptism for Jane Cobby (Parham) and Thomas Fist (Cowfold) but the Bateups are eluding me.

Edward & Jane's children were baptised at West Grinstead but Frances and Thomas Feist's children were baptised at West Firle.

Not sure if this is relevant but there were 2 other Bateup marriages at W Grinstead; Elizabeth married Edmund Cobby (brother of Jane) in 1747 and Mary married Thomas Lepherd in 1751

On Ancestry I have found another FT which suggests Edward Batchup is the son of Thomas Baytop (born 1690 at Wadhurst) and wife Catherine but no facts attached though 'my' Edward Bateup named his eldest daughter Katherine and Mary & Thomas Lepherd also had a daughter Katherine which seems to tie in.
Any help or hints much appreciated

[ColC]

I note the marriages you mention, on freereg, at West Grinstead: St George : Parish Register, there are also a few burials before 1840.

I could not find any baptisms on freereg or family search. It might be worth a look at the information on the church below and subsequently West Sussex Records Office.
(They are doing site maintenance today)

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SSX/WestGrinstead/TheParishChurchofStGeorge

https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/leisure-recreation-and-community/history-and-heritage/west-sussex-record-office

Colin

[spendlove]

Hi,

If you search West Sussex Record Office Catalogue for Bateup one of the references if for a settlement
Examination of a John Bateup in 1783.

This is connection, however their web site appears to be updating so perhaps try later

http://185.121.204.173/SearchOnline/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=Par59%2f32%2f4%2f1%2f12&pos=3.

This examination appears on family search - thought this may save you some time and money.

His Father is Thomas Bateup, John has been working for Edmund Cobby.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XG3-FKY?i=410&cat=655034

Spendlove

[CrystalPalace]

Thank you for your input.
Having read up on West Grinstead, I am now wondering if the Bateups were Catholic.

On another thread on here I found reference to the [/b]Margaret Higgins database of Catholics in England [/b]and on there is listed for 1727, a Tho Bateops (Batrops) of West Grinstead.

So, I think my next step  will be to access [/b]the West Grinstead Catholic Mission Registers 1705-1855[/b] which requires a visit to the WSRO

[Maiden Stone]

Having read up on West Grinstead, I am now wondering if the Bateups were Catholic.
On another thread on here I found reference to the [/b]Margaret Higgins database of Catholics in England [/b]and on there is listed for 1727, a Tho Bateops (Batrops) of West Grinstead.

Were they on 1767 Return of Papists or a list of Catholic nonjurors & Register of Papists' estates 1715?
Editions of the 1715 Catholic & nonjurors lists, arranged by county, are online on Internet Archive. There's a basic list with financial accounts. Also "English Catholic Nonjurors 1715 - Summary of Register of Papists' Estates" edited by Edgar Estcourt & John Orblear Payne, published by Burns & Oates, publisher of Catholics Record Society journals. The latter book includes biographical information for some entries.
Neither 1715 nor 1767 lists include every Catholic. Only 2 branches of my Catholic ancestors were represented on 1715 list. My other R.C. ancestors in the same parishes must have been beneath notice. 1767 Return was correct for my family's parish but the Anglican curate of an adjacent parish admitted to only 1 Catholic in the parish - he wasn't looking hard enough.