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Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« on: Saturday 06 November 21 13:45 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find the birth data of Ellen MULFORD.
I find her in the 1861 census, with parents Henry and Catherine, as born in 1852, with two brothers.
In the 1871 census, same birth year, two brothers and one sister.
I tried in vain to find Ellen in the GRO birth database. I did find her brothers and sister from 1871, which gave me the MMN of Nobes.

Ellen marries in 1871 George Ellis. I find her (as Ellen Ellis) in the 1939 "census" with DOB given as 12 Aug 1854.

Even with that additional information, I seem to be unable to find her birth in the GRO index. Any help is highly appreciated.


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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 November 21 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Henry Mulford married Catherine Nobes in 1849. It might be worth finding them in 1851 in case Ellen is older than stated (ie born in 1852 as stated on the 1861.
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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 November 21 15:53 GMT (UK) »
MULFORD, MARY  ANN     NOBES 
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in WOKINGHAM UNION  Volume 06  Page 282

MULFORD, WILLIAM       NOBES 
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in WOKINGHAM UNION  Volume 06  Page 311
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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 November 21 16:03 GMT (UK) »
MULFORD, JANE       mmn NOVES  (Probably a typist error on the index as V is next to B  :) )
GRO Reference: 1856  June Quarter in WOKINGHAM  Volume 02C  Page 357

ADDED Died March qtr 1857
 
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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 November 21 16:09 GMT (UK) »
There are NO children with them in 1851 - only a brother of Henry's, Charles Mulford.

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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 November 21 16:31 GMT (UK) »
There is :

Births Mar 1847 
Nobes    Ellen        Hartley Winty.    7   94      MMN  Whereham


Perhaps Ellen was adopted


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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 November 21 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Tony -- I had wondered about adoption also.

If Henry and Catherine's first 2 children had died - maybe they adopted the baby girl - then DID have surviving children of their own. Pure supposition of course!
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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 November 21 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Ellen Nobes only appears in the 1851 census with parents Richard and Ann in Crondall, Hampshire.


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Re: Looking for birth of Ellen MULFORD, b. ca.1852, Eversley, Hampshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 November 21 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage for that Ellen Nobes at Farnham RD in 1864, she marries William Newell.  In 1881 her place of birth is Crondall and she is age 34
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Piece 788
Folio 130
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