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Answering one query seems to bring more
« on: Wednesday 10 November 21 15:47 GMT (UK) »
I thought I had my maternal family well sorted out until I got my G/Grandmothers death certificate. This said that Alexander Shiel, her son, was present at her death. None of her ten children was called Alexander. A GRO search shows only two people of that name born in her probable fertile lifetime, but none with her named as the mother. This geneology game can turn you grey, if you haven't already got there
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Re: Answering one query seems to bring more
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 November 21 16:09 GMT (UK) »
"aaaaaargh" 

is the only possible reaction to that discovery.

Back to the drawing board then, very best wishes with that.

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Re: Answering one query seems to bring more
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 November 21 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Remember that you do not need to prove that you are related to the deceased when registering the death. You are asked the question. It could also be information not written down correctly.
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Re: Answering one query seems to bring more
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 November 21 17:23 GMT (UK) »
Was her surname Shiel?

Could it have been son in law rather than son?

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Re: Answering one query seems to bring more
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 November 21 19:06 GMT (UK) »
It could also be that her husband Alexander registered her death and got noted as son in error. Was he still alive when wife Mary died?

Guessing you have also noted all the 10 living children for them and confirmed their details.

Their 1911 entry www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWCC-SWX with the family as you know showing as Thiel, the original surname for Alexander.

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Re: Answering one query seems to bring more
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 November 21 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pheno, yes her surname was Shiel.
Monical, a good idea but her poor husband got run over by a train eight years earlier. I suppose one of her sons could be known as Alex, but I can't think how I can confirm that.
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 November 21 23:33 GMT (UK) »
What about the addresses on the death certificate?
Do you know where the sons were living when she died?
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 November 21 03:33 GMT (UK) »
My only observation is that the Mary on 1911 census in South Shields was bc.1860 and the Mary Shiel who died Mar.qtr.1939 South Shields was aged 72 i.e. bc.1866/1867.   Is this definitely the right death certificate?

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Re: Answering one query seems to bring more
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 November 21 07:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Annette, I can see your point but as the widow of Alexander Shiel, a ships carpenter I'm pretty certain she is the right one as this corresponds to everything I have on the family. I find that age was fairly fluid on official documents of the time. and I can follow her from birth to death through marriage and her being mentioned in the newspaper article recording her husbands death.
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