Where in Devon?

[mckha489]

I think one of the people listed is Sarah Bright b 1788 Feonds Devon in 1851

Looking at the people listed in other census years ( Sarah and others) I think the place is a bad version of Totnes

Kay

I think you are correct.  Well found.

[Ruskie]

Totnes makes sense Kay. I can’t work out what else it could be, though neither versions of the place name have that second t, so it must be a mishearing or poor interpretation of Totnes.

Btw kdsopf, you are not an “ignorant Australian” to ask for help identifying a very tricky placename. 

[kdsoph]

Hi, so sorry for the no responses. I am downunder so my water runs down the drain the wrong way and my sun doth shine when your moon is up. I was alseep!

the reference is for the Census is (I know you found it)
Household schedule number 10
Piece 2183
Folio 431
Page number 4

[kdsoph]

This is a screenshot of the Census showing family in question. Anne Miller (wife) in No. 84 Grove St was Anne Jacobs - 2nd marriage. Frederick and Charles Jacobs in No. 86 are her sons. I can't figure out who the relationships mentioned are referring to. Anne or her husband William Miller, as he is the head of the household.

You will laugh, but its William I am trying to trace 

[Ruskie]

Gee that looks confusing. 

Normally the relationships in census relate to the head of household, though that’s not set in stone as you have found. The enumerator looks to have been a bit unsure how to list the residents, as you seldom see a 14 year old boy listed first in a household. A step son could be listed as a son.

Do you know who the Brights and Jacksons are?

Have you found any or all of these people in the 1861 or any other censuses?

[Ruskie]

Frederick Jacobs, Charles, and a younger sister Matilda appear to be living in Totnes in the 1841 census.

Another confusing mixed looking family including the Arthur Jackson from the 1851 census. 

[Ruskie]

The 1861 census …. Still a bit confusing but getting a bit clearer.

Ann Miller is a widow living at 84 Grove st.

 Living next door at no 86, Hannah Jacobs is head of household. Frederick and Charles Jacobs are her great nephews. All three born in Totnes. Arthur Jackson is Hannah’s nephew.

I haven’t followed the rest of the family from the 1851 census.

[kdsoph]

The 1861 census …. Still a bit confusing but getting a bit clearer.

Ann Miller is a widow living at 84 Grove st.

 Living next door at no 86, Hannah Jacobs is head of household. Frederick and Charles Jacobs are her great nephews. All three born in Totnes. Arthur Jackson is Hannah’s nephew.

I haven’t followed the rest of the family from the 1851 census.

You are amazing - thank you so much. No need to follow the rest of the family as it looks as though they were Ann's and its the Miller's I am after. I really just needed to know where in Devon this boys were born so I could figure out the relationships on the Census as William is a dark horse and hard to trace his family or origins. In this Census William Miller lists himself as a Jamaica British subject but I think he was born in Scotland. I don't know where to go from here but I do know it's not Totnes, Devon  . I also need to thank you as I had no death date for William but now I know its before 1861 ....awesome.

Thank you all. 

[Ruskie]

You said you are researching William Miller. Was he married before he married Anne?

On the 1861 census there is a 20 year old son, Peter. Who is his mother? Anne?

I just had a quick look on freebmd but couldn’t see a marriage for William Miller and Ann Jacobs (haven’t tried variants). When did they marry?

Is there anything in particular you want to find out about William?