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Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« on: Sunday 14 November 21 14:38 GMT (UK) »
I have my great great grandmother  Theresa Firth and on her baptism record is her mother Betty, no father. In 1841 Census there is a Theresa Firth listed  with a George Firth. However when image is looked at it shows that George is GRandfathed and head of several children. But the very next entry in census has Betty as head with a variety of siblings and other children. Was it common that a whole family may have gone in together but then the enumerators registered them as 2 heads, and make it look as if 2 households?

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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 November 21 14:53 GMT (UK) »
The census forms differentiate between households and dwellings.

There will be a single stroke (/) between households, and a double-stroke (//) between dwellings.
Very common to have 2 (or more) households in a dwelling.

But you need to look at the census forms, and not the transcriptions.  ;)
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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 November 21 14:54 GMT (UK) »
No relationship is shown in the 1841 census.
There's no column for it.

Give a link to the census entry, not just " in West Yorkshire " for anyone to look at thr original



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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 November 21 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone. I am limited at what I can do at the moment as I am in hospital with covid so can't do specific research but just ask general questions to help me when I am eventually out.

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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 November 21 15:24 GMT (UK) »
There will be a single stroke (/) between households, and a double-stroke (//) between dwellings.
Very common to have 2 (or more) households in a dwelling.

In this case there is a double line between the two entries.

HO 107 / 1267/ 1/ f.5/ p.6

East Ardsley

George Firth senr, 50, coal miner, Y
Rachel do, 55, Y
Martin do, 14, Y
Charlotte do, 11, Y
Wm do, 6, Y
Tereza do, 3, Y

//

Betty Firth, 25, Y
Hannah do, 20, Y
Rachel do, 15, Y
Ruth do, 15, Y
Joshua do, 1, Y
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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 November 21 15:28 GMT (UK) »
There will be a single stroke (/) between households, and a double-stroke (//) between dwellings.
Very common to have 2 (or more) households in a dwelling.

In this case there is a double line between the two entries.

HO 107 / 1267/ 1/ f.5/ p.6

East Ardsley

George Firth senr, 50, coal miner, Y
Rachel do, 55, Y
Martin do, 14, Y
Charlotte do, 11, Y
Wm do, 6, Y
Tereza do, 3, Y

//

Betty Firth, 25, Y
Hannah do, 20, Y
Rachel do, 15, Y
Ruth do, 15, Y
Joshua do, 1, Y

It's possible I got that the wrong way around? :-[
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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 November 21 15:34 GMT (UK) »
No, you're right.

At the end of the names of each family draw a line thus / as in the Example.  At the end of the names of the inmates in each house draw a double line thus //.
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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 November 21 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Just adding an extra child (it's easy to miss one when there are a lot!):

HO 107 / 1267/ 1/ f.5/ p.6

East Ardsley

George Firth senr, 50, coal miner, Y
Rachel do, 55, Y
Martin do, 14, Y
Charlotte do, 11, Y
Wm do, 6, Y
Martha, 5, Y
Tereza do, 3, Y

//

Betty Firth, 25, Y
Hannah do, 20, Y
Rachel do, 15, Y
Ruth do, 15, Y
Joshua do, 1, Y

Rachel in the first household will be a minimum of 55 years old, so if they are related, William, Martha, Tereza and Joshua are most likely to be her grandchildren. It looks like an extended family spread over two properties and split fairly randomly, but you'd need to do some more research to find out exactly who belongs where.
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Re: Collection of census records in West Yorkshiire
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 November 21 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone,
Yes in the 1851 Census Tereza Firth is shown as the Grandaughter of George and Rachel, Betty is listed as being a housekeeper in the household of her brother George who is widowed and has 6 children.

The single/double slash is something I didn't know and is very helpful. It does suggest that the 3 generations of the Firth Family are all together and were in the same place. As it stands, Betty is listed with her siblings and Hannah's son Joshua (aged 1), while the grandchildren are listed as being with their grandparents.