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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 16 November 21 06:51 GMT (UK) »
Skye - yes possibly. I think she was actually born in Kilmarnock in 1840, but Colin suggests her parents were possibly from Skye, although records are sparse.
Her birth certificate (Kilmarnock, 5.9.1840) says her father, Alexander, was a "Calico Printer" and the marriage certificate also gives the same profession for him, Calico printer. I'm not going to post the birth certificate here. Please take my word for it. The birth certificate does not give places of birth for her parents

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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 16 November 21 09:18 GMT (UK) »

Is this your family...with business in Victoria, 1869?

Lyttleton Times 19 Jul 1869 p2
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/LT18690719.2.3?
July 17 Rangitoto, s.s., 459 tons, Mackie, for Dunedin, Bluff, and Melbourne.
Passengers.... Mrs McCaull and four children.....

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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 16 November 21 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Very likely, yes. McCaull is such an uncommon name. She had 4 children by that stage plus one born at sea on 25 jun 1869, en route to Christchurch & Lyttleton according to my records.

Probably one of the children had stayed in NZ and not gone on the ship, the oldest child was 9 at that stage.
Thankyou for finding this. much appreciated

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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 16 November 21 09:57 GMT (UK) »


What children do you have for Henry Michael McCAULL and Mary McDONALD?

 "one born at sea on 25 jun 1869, en route to Christchurch & Lyttleton"

......en route from....where?


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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 16 November 21 10:22 GMT (UK) »
These are all the children:

Birth of son Charles Nathaniel McCaull(18601929)
14 FEB 1860 Geelong, Victoria

Birth of son Henry Michael McCaull(18621884)
1 May 1862 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand

Birth of son Kenneth Cameron McCaull(18651950)
17 February 1865 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand

Birth of daughter Mary "Minnie" Catherine McCaull(18671934)
22 February 1867 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand

Birth of daughter "Marcella" Jemima Copeland McCAULL(1869)
25 JUN 1869 At Sea from Levuka, Ovalau Island, Fiji and Lyttleton Canterbury NZ.


Birth of daughter Emily Sophia McCaull(18711950)
6 November 1871 Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand

Birth of son Evan Alexander McCaull(1874)
12 November 1874 Wellington, New Zealand

Birth of daughter Florence McCaull(18771945)
5 June 1877 Wellington, New Zealand

Birth of son Frederick Woods McCaull(18801881)
6 December 1880 Wellington, New Zealand

Birth of daughter Edith Alice McCAULL(18831916)
19 February 1883 Wellington, New Zealand

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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 17 November 21 06:10 GMT (UK) »


Star (Christchurch) 16 Jul 1869 p2
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TS18690716.2.3.2?
..arrival "Jeannie Duncan" from Levuka 24 June....Mrs McCAUL of a daughter the day after leaving Levuka....

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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 17 November 21 07:29 GMT (UK) »
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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 17 November 21 08:22 GMT (UK) »
How does one search for names of people/families who emigrated to Victoria, by assisted passage. We have established that her father was at the wedding in Melbourne.

Mary's marriage cert also states she was born on the "Isle of Sky " sic.

Other family members may have immigrated with her. We also know from the certificate her mother's maiden name was Ann McLean and her father's occupation was a calico printer.

I have a Sccotlandspeople.gov.uk birth record for a Mary McDonald b 8 Sep 1840 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, father, Alexander McDonald, occupation, Calico Printer and mother Ann McLean

The 1841 Kilmarnock census lists her and her family (+ 2 brothers, Hugh b 1830 and Donald b 1832) however all other members besides Mary are listed as born outside of Ayrshire, suggesting they may have recently arrived from Skye.

An 1851 census form from Kilmarnock has the following McDonald Family:
Alexander, age 49, occupation 'steamer', birth country Ireland
Ann, age 48, no occupation listed, birthplace Skye
Hugh, Age 20, occupation Calico printer, birthplace Skye
Mary, Age 22, occupation Tailor Journeyman, birthplace Skye

Mary's age is a bit puzzling here - she would have been about 11 at the time. However her occupation as 'tailor journeyman' fits with her occupation on her marriage certificate in Melbourne in 1859 "dressmaker". Maybe they lied to the census taker re her age, which I have seen happen on other census forms from North America.
The Calico printer seems to fit, son taking the father's occupation, (how common was a calico printer as an occupation in the day?) but what was a 'steamer"? - something to do with printing? Again, I think the place of birth Ireland could also be a lie, for whatever reason.


My suspicion is that if this is the correct family, they left sometime after that for Melbourne on assisted passage. They obviously were a working class family and wanted to broaden their horizons.

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Re: looking for 'Alexander McDonald' Scottish immigrant to Melbourne 1850s
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 17 November 21 10:28 GMT (UK) »
For your consideration-

There is nothing on the marriage certificate that shows the illiterate person named Alexander McDONALD was Mary's father. 

I have not seen anything in available resources, to show that her father was ever in Melbourne.

A16/17 18/ or 19 year old Mary McDONALD may have traveled alone as an assisted passenger to Victoria at that time when there was a great shortage of marriageable women in the colony.  She may have come with other relations.

Sue
   
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