John Elliott Brighton

[Suzy100]

Dinah Dean was born abt 1826 in Beeding Sussex.  In 1841 she is a servant.  I cannot find her in 1851.  In 1854 she has a daughter Katherine Jane Elliott, father John Elliott a Coppersmith.  Mother Dinah was the informant, from Fishergate Southwick.  In 1861 census (C)Katherine and Dinah are living Brighton and she is listed as Widowed, I believe as it is not clear.  In 1862 Dinah marries a George Lawson. Her Father stated as Thomas Dean.  Katherine marries Frederick William Hill in 1872 and she states father John Elliott deceased occ Brazier.

I cannot find a John Elliott anywhere, there is no obvious birth and no John Elliott on the 1841 or 1851 census stating occupation as a Coppersmith or a Brazier.  Also there are no deaths that apply to him, I have looked on the GRO and the ages do not add up.  I have searched the census's on the Genealogist and cannot find him.

Any help finding a John Elliott would be appreciated.

Many thanks

[PaulineJ]

What ties John elliot to Brighton?

Have you found dinah first marriage for his details?

[CaroleW]

1862 marriage - what is her status - widow or spinster

Katherine's birth cert - is Dinah shown as Elliott nee Dean or just Dean?

[jomcd967]

Banns for Dinah and John Elliot..
Canterbury Cathedral Archives, St Peter & St Paul, Charlton by Dover Kent
John Elliott bachelor and Dinah Dean spinster, botp, 16 Nov, 23 Nov, 30 Nov 1851

GRO marriage reference… 1851 Dover Kent 4 qtr Vol 5 page 216

1851 34 Limekiln Street, St Mary Dover
John Elliott, head, unm, 21, brazier, b. Preston Lancashire.

Jo 

[jomcd967]

Their marriage 7 Dec 1851
John Elliot, 22, bachelor, brazier, resides Charlton, father Thomas Elliott brazier
Dinah Dean, 25, spinster, resides Charlton, father William Dean farmer
Both signed, witnessed by George Rye & Susan? Adams

Jo 

[Suzy100]

Their marriage 7 Dec 1851
John Elliot, 22, bachelor, brazier, resides Charlton, father Thomas Elliott brazier
Dinah Dean, 25, spinster, resides Charlton, father William Dean farmer
Both signed, witnessed by George Rye & Susan? Adams

Jo 

This is great Jo, and looks like the right one however on her second marriage to George LAwson it states her father is Thomas Dean not William.
Also how would she have been in Kent when she was born in Brighton.  Unless she worked there as a servant in 1851, but I cannot find her in the census for that year.

[Suzy100]

On Katherines birth certificate is does say mother Dinah Elliott formerly Dean.

[Suzy100]

What ties John elliot to Brighton?

Have you found dinah first marriage for his details?

I just assumed he came from Brighton but have not detail on him at all, apart from his occupation.

This was the first marriage to John Elliott second marriage is to George Lawson.  But I will order the marriage certificate I think.

[CaroleW]

Have you seen reply above - John Elliott was from Preston Lancs