help deciphering latin words on irish baptismal cert

[riannisuileabhain]

hi, im researching my family history at the moment and have come across writing in the "circumstances and comments" section of a baptismal record that says something that im having trouble deciphering. im pretty sure that the first word says "sub" which means under in latin, dont have a clue what the other word says, if anyone could give me a hand it would be much appreciated  thanks!

[manukarik]

I think it says sub cond. short for sub conditione and meaning conditionally. Does that make sense in the context of the whole document?

[arthurk]

Sub conditione would certainly fit the context; it's sometimes seen in a baptism register to refer to a conditional baptism. This is when there is some doubt as to whether someone has already been baptised, and the priest will use words to the effect of "If you have not already been baptised, I baptise you...."

Circumstances when this might occur include someone joining the church as an adult convert, or if there's some question about how an emergency baptism was administered.

[riannisuileabhain]

the child on the record was born on october 1 according to civil records and born on september 28 according to the baptismal record, could the child had been prematurely born/unhealthy when born and an emergency baptism was performed in those few days? (for context, the baptism on the record took place on oct 5). thanks

[gaffy]

I've encountered the same several times before, I'm interpreting this as an 'emergency' baptism (due to doubt over the survival of the child), I have read that it was sometimes even performed by the midwife or handywoman.

[arthurk]

That does sound as though the midwife (or other attendant etc) performed an emergency baptism because it was feared the child would die before a priest could come and baptise him/her.

No doubt there was panic and confusion and the midwife may have been unable to recall exactly how it had been done, so to make sure of the situation the priest performed a conditional baptism.

[Maiden Stone]

the child on the record was born on october 1 according to civil records and born on september 28 according to the baptismal record, could the child had been prematurely born/unhealthy when born and an emergency baptism was performed in those few days? (for context, the baptism on the record took place on oct 5). thanks

Do you mean the conditional baptism happened on 5th October?
If the entry in the baptism register was made a short time after birth, that date of birth was more likely to be correct. The date on the birth registration may have been mis-remembered or deliberately falsified to fit within the time allowed for registering births.
I agree with other replies. Someone baptised the baby at home and a priest carried out a conditional baptism later.

[Joney]

Yes, I agree. I think it needs pointing out to the OP that conditional baptisms aren't particularly unusual.