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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 November 21 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Sounds like you are experiencing the same dead ends that I am with my GG grandfather, Alfred Gill.  I really appreciate your replies.  I'd love to find out what happened and why he left the family. 

Thanks,

Travis

So mother Martha remarried in 1899 and has the 2 younger children with her in 1901 but haven't found a death for Alfred yet.

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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 18 November 21 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Travis, this is your tree? www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/169301784/person/182196396676/facts

Good to see you have so much detail and documents. See there is still a question mark on when Alfred Gill died, although you have some details already on his family.

Monica
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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 November 21 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica -

I couldn't open your link.  I use the .ca version of the website as most of my immediate relatives live in Canada.  Here's a link to my tree.  I have just under 600 spots filled.  I try not to add anyone without documentation and proof.

https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/pt/RSVP.aspx?dat=MTY5MzAxNzg0OzswMjU2NDJhNi0wMDA2LTAwMDAtMDAwMC0wMDAwMDAwMDAwMDA7MjAyMTExMTgxNjE2NDQ7MzI3Njk=&mac=D7JmgnUfBCEuIfetkD5huA==

Thanks,

Travis

Travis, this is your tree? www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/169301784/person/182196396676/facts

Good to see you have so much detail and documents. See there is still a question mark on when Alfred Gill died, although you have some details already on his family.

Monica


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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 November 21 16:15 GMT (UK) »
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  I am aware of the second marriage to Thomas Oaks. 

Presumably this marriage would have her status as a widow. 

1891 Martha Gill indicates she is married so his death should be between 1891-1899
if he really had died of course  :-\

I wonder where he was in 1891. 
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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 November 21 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes, this is the mystery I am trying to solve.  Appreciate your help!

Travis

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  I am aware of the second marriage to Thomas Oaks. 

Presumably this marriage would have her status as a widow. 

1891 Martha Gill indicates she is married so his death should be between 1891-1899
if he really had died of course  :-\

I wonder where he was in 1891.

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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #14 on: Friday 19 November 21 17:18 GMT (UK) »

...My assumption is that Elsie was "placed" by Barnardo's out in Saskatchewan and came over to Ontario to visit sister, Martha.

Elsie would have been too old to have sent to Canada by Barnado's. She was working as a kitchen maid in Hampstead Heath, England in 1911. She showed as Elsie Dorothy Gill, aged 19. She left the following year, on the 'Canada', arriving in Portland Maine on 2 April 1912. Showing as aged 21. Her travel was arranged by Franc(x?) party. She travelled with other women showing as domestics. Maybe a recruitment drive for staff?

Three years later, you have her marriage in Saskatchewan.

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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 November 21 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monika -

I contacted Barnardo's to ask for their files on my Great Grandmother.  Filled out a long form and paid a fee.  Hoping the information they have may answer some of these mysteries!

Travis


...My assumption is that Elsie was "placed" by Barnardo's out in Saskatchewan and came over to Ontario to visit sister, Martha.

Elsie would have been too old to have sent to Canada by Barnado's. She was working as a kitchen maid in Hampstead Heath, England in 1911. She showed as Elsie Dorothy Gill, aged 19. She left the following year, on the 'Canada', arriving in Portland Maine on 2 April 1912. Showing as aged 21. Her travel was arranged by Franc(x?) party. She travelled with other women showing as domestics. Maybe a recruitment drive for staff?

Three years later, you have her marriage in Saskatchewan.

Monica

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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #16 on: Friday 19 November 21 18:39 GMT (UK) »
St. Pancras workhouse religious creed register has Martha Gill, 30, machinist, and two children, Alfred and Elsie, admitted  6 Dec 1892, from 57 Carlton Street. Martha discharged 21 Aug 1893.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3N2-TRVG

Leavesden school record has Alfred and Elsie admitted 10 March 1893. Elsie via the infirmary (Highgate, as per creed)
Father Alfred deserted.
Mother in workhouse, then a later address or two?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3NG-73CZ

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Re: Martha Jane Sanderson Gill (British Home Child)
« Reply #17 on: Friday 19 November 21 18:52 GMT (UK) »
To confirm that address, Alfred Gill at 57 Carlton Street in the 1893 electoral register
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