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Re: Who were The NICE brothers, please... London 1880s perhaps
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 20 November 21 13:53 GMT (UK) »
majm
I respect your qualifications, because I know how hard it is to earn them.

However you accused me of deliberately withholding information, or not making a link to another thread, thus breaking RootsChat rules.

There is no link to be made with another thread.
There is nothing to be gained from alerting researchers to the enquiry about the burial record. No connection at all that I can see at the moment.

Therefore I break no rules.
And I dislike being criticised or reprimanded for something I clearly have not done.
I can't speak for you, of course, but I think you would feel the same?

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Thank you for your comments.   May I suggest you consider finding quiet time to re-read my post carefully.  I suggested a better approach, and offered my reasoning.  I did not reprimand you. 

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Re: Who were The NICE brothers, please... London 1880s perhaps
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 20 November 21 14:00 GMT (UK) »
I have just discovered that there are several trees posted with information that you might already have known Dulciebun and the information which I discovered by searching.
A couple of the trees have photographs, one of which looks very like your man in the photo, complete with a couple of instruments.
The owners of those trees have presumably reached the same conclusions that cuffie81 and I have done but you may want to contact them.

I have researched on Rootschat for a long time now, and my advice has always been that it helps to post what is known and what is required. It can be very helpful to those searching and avoids misunderstandings.

I maintain that it would have been better if, from the outset, it had been mentioned that you were trying to establish that William Nice was /not John Heath rather than leaving it for others to discover and then think they were successfully helping.

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Re: Who were The NICE brothers, please... London 1880s perhaps
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 20 November 21 14:39 GMT (UK) »
I have just discovered that there are several trees posted with information that you might already have known Dulciebun and the information which I discovered by searching.
A couple of the trees have photographs, one of which looks very like your man in the photo, complete with a couple of instruments.
The owners of those trees have presumably reached the same conclusions that cuffie81 and I have done but you may want to contact them.

I have researched on Rootschat for a long time now, and my advice has always been that it helps to post what is known and what is required. It can be very helpful to those searching and avoids misunderstandings.

I maintain that it would have been better if, from the outset, it had been mentioned that you were trying to establish that William Nice was /not John Heath rather than leaving it for others to discover and then think they were successfully helping.


heywood

You assume that I have the funds to access multiple online sites and also the free time to consult them.
Maybe you do. We are not all equal.

I am here purely at the request of another person who is too frail to write for themself (NOT the person who asked about a murdered man).

I assumed nothing and was trying to prove nothing. Exploration of the matter is the aim.
I later came forward with what I had found, in order to show that the oddities in the censuses had been noticed by myself as well as you.

Nothing was 'known' or is known. And no particular outcome in any direction was expected or hoped for or required. So there was nothing to LINK to, and nothing to REQUIRE from members here, simply an open question about 2 men with banjos in a black and white photo, not knowing where on earth it might lead. I followed what was offered and then added what I, too, had considered.

I haven't a clue who the men in the photo are. Have you?

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Re: Who were The NICE brothers, please... London 1880s perhaps
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 20 November 21 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Dulciebun,

I am learning to assume nothing about you, your funds or your time.

 I have helped you in the past where the results of my funds and time was a cordial, online Rootschat relationship with you.
I do not understand why there is so much criticism from you today.

I have no idea who the men are, but, as I wrote earlier, there are family trees with what looks to be  the older man and owners of those trees are linking him to John Heath.

You write:

I later came forward with what I had found, in order to show that the oddities in the censuses had been noticed by myself as well as you.

This was of course after the work was done by me.

I reiterate that it would have been best to state what you had researched at the beginning. Had you done so, for my part, I would have been more than willing, as ever,  to collaborate with you to confirm or deny your findings.

Best wishes

Heywood.
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Re: Who were The NICE brothers, please... London 1880s perhaps
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 20 November 21 16:40 GMT (UK) »


I am learning to assume nothing about you, your funds or your time.

 I have helped you in the past where the results of my funds and time was a cordial, online Rootschat relationship with you.
I do not understand why there is so much criticism from you today.

I have no idea who the men are, but, as I wrote earlier, there are family trees with what looks to be  the older man and owners of those trees are linking him to John Heath.

You write:

I later came forward with what I had found, in order to show that the oddities in the censuses had been noticed by myself as well as you.

This was of course after the work was done by me.

I reiterate that it would have been best to state what you had researched at the beginning. Had you done so, for my part, I would have been more than willing, as ever,  to collaborate with you to confirm or deny your findings.

Best wishes

Heywood.

heywood

I hadn't researched it, that's incorrect, nor could I give you information or any links 'at the beginning' or in advance, because I had no facts. Even I can't do the impossible. (I wish!)

I possessed nothing when I asked the question, just a photograph of anonymous men. Who are still anonymous.

Time to close this down, I think?
We need to treat each other with gentleness and kindness, always.

Better things to do - such as helping people find things they need, which is what we all do well.

D