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"Clergyman without care of souls"
« on: Friday 19 November 21 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Just seen this on a census - would it mean a retired vicar?

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Re: "Clergyman without care of souls"
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 November 21 18:15 GMT (UK) »
A clergyman without any pastoral duties, so could describe someone who was retired or working in another occupation such as religious teaching
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Re: "Clergyman without care of souls"
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 November 21 19:57 GMT (UK) »
Is it "without care" or "without cure" of souls. As sine cura?
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Re: "Clergyman without care of souls"
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 November 21 20:25 GMT (UK) »
From the census document, how old is the clergyman? 

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Re: "Clergyman without care of souls"
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 November 21 21:20 GMT (UK) »
His age is immaterial. ‘Without cure of souls’ is a standard phrase, indicating that he was ordained but was not officiating in a parish at that time.

As Vance has said, the usual word is ‘cure’, not ‘care’, although there is always a chance that the person who filled in the household schedule, and/or the census enumerator, wrote it incorrectly.

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Re: "Clergyman without care of souls"
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 November 21 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Often seen linked to Fellows of universities, or to teachers.
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Re: "Clergyman without care of souls"
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 November 21 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much. It`s difficult to see if it is "care" or "cure".  He is 59 and, according to his probate records later, quite a wealthy chap