Searching for Henry James Turmeau

[clarksparks]

Henry James Turmeau (b. 1791Middlesex) married Charlotte Owen on 5 August 1820 in Westminster, Middlesex.

The 1841 census shows them at London Street, St Pancras, Middlesex with 5 children. Henry was a Jewellers Case Maker.

In 1851 a Henry Turmeau is listed in a Directory as a Carver & Gilder at 188 Tottenham Court Road – possibly Henry’s son, also Henry.

A record shows a Henry Turmeau entered Colney Hatch Asylum on 31 Dec 1851 and died there 17 May 1852.  I believe this is Henry’s son Henry William Charles (a Gilder) who married Eliza Pheby in 1847 (father Henry Turmeau, Jewel Case Maker).  Eliza Turmeau, a widow, married George Smith in 1855.

I can’t find any more records for Henry and Charlotte Turmeau. Can you help please?

[rosie99]

Henry James Turmeau
Baptism at Westminster 22 Nov 1790
Parents John & Elizabeth

ADDED 

Death Sep qtr 1877   
TURMEAU    Charlotte    age 80   
Pancras    1b   8

[rosie99]

1871
RG10/200 f48 p40
Charlotte with daughter Charlotte in Nelson St, St Pancras.
Charlotte snr occ Jewellers paper case maker

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The GRO death ref for 1852

TURMEAN, HENRY       aged 29 
GRO Reference: 1852  J Quarter in BARNET  Volume 03A  Page 73

John
 

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Death of Henry senior

Henry James Twemeau
Age:   79
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1791
Registration Quarter:   Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place:   Pancras, London, United Kingdom
Death Date:   Jun 1870
Inferred Death Place:   London, United Kingdom
Volume:   1b
Page:   12

John

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Prior to entering Colney Hatch, Henry jnr had a short period in the St Pancras infirmary. Admitted 15 July - occupation guilder, noted as "non compis". Discharged  21 July 1851 - insane, into care of mother and father

Have found St Pancras' register of lunatics in Colney Hatch in that period, and no Henry, so he must have been admitted via another district

[Mabel Bagshawe]

A brief appearance by Henry snr - https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18160918-86

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A possibility for Henry Snr with wife and 2 children in 1851.


Piece:   1493
Folio:   137
Page Number:   27
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Isaac Hill   30
Ellen Hill   30
Henry J Gowman   60  Paper case Maker
Charlotte Gowman   53
Charlotte Gowman   18
Elizabeth Gowman   15

John

[rosie99]

A possibility for Henry Snr with wife and 2 children in 1851.


Piece:   1493
Folio:   137
Page Number:   27
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Isaac Hill   30
Ellen Hill   30
Henry J Gowman   60  Paper case Maker
Charlotte Gowman   53
Charlotte Gowman   18
Elizabeth Gowman   15

John

Good find John, FindMyPast have it as Towman and that is what it looks like.  They are a separate household from the Hill family