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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 16:48 GMT (UK) »
I agree it could be "du chemin".👍

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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Second clip
8 October Burial
Françoie Rebouté son of Adrien, day laborer, and Marie Quiton his wife.

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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much Zefiro and joger.
Can you give me the actual word in French for 'tailor' they use here - I can see it's not 'tailleur'. Some other, older, term perhaps.
Also the term for 'day labourer' - "mano..... campagnon?"

Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much Zefiro and joger.
Can you give me the actual word in French for 'tailor' they use here - I can see it's not 'tailleur'. Some other, older, term perhaps.
Also the term for 'day labourer' - "mano..... camp....."?

manouvrier : day labourer
cousturier (modern French couturier): tailor
tisserand compagnon : weaver who has completed his apprenticeship and who works for a master before becoming a master himself.


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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant! Thanks Zefiro  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 22:02 GMT (UK) »
I have apology for manukarik.
I have been going over all this Rabate family trying to get them into generations. and see how they all fit together (drawing a diagram always helps!).
I've realised the Antoine married in 1691 at Montigne was the son of Antoine and Marthe - she of the name that has been transcribed in a number of ways. Antoine, the son, was indeed marrying Marie Prevost, daughter of Francis Prevost. I hadn't got them straight in my head.
Sorry manukarik.  :-\

I think Antoine the elder was the brother of my ancestor Jean. Both children, along with Quentin and Adrien, of a Jean senior, but as the registers don't start until after what would have been their births, it can only be a theory.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 24 November 21 01:16 GMT (UK) »
I'd be grateful if someone could fill in the blanks here, and indeed correct anything I have got wrong.

Le deuxiesm iour de Janvier a été enterré
dans la cimetier de Ceane(?) Adrien
?    ? decedé la premier
iour du ? mois de mort subit
et one assisté en Cem? Jean Rebouté
^cousturier^ son Cousin et Marguerit ?
sa fille


I've seen that word after cemetery before. Perhaps they didn't have a burial yard at the church in Fieulaine. It must have been a very small place.

Thanks very much
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 24 November 21 01:32 GMT (UK) »
And following on with another one  (just about finished now!)

Le cinquiesm de novembre a été baptisé per
moy Curé marie marguerit lam? fille de nicolae
lam? manouvrier et de Marguerite rebouté son pere
et mere né le quatorsiem du dit mois parrein
Jean rebouté ----------- marrein marie lam?


This is really just missing the surname of the child and father.
I know what I think it might be, but I'd like an unbiased opinion.
Marguerite Reboute was the daughter of Adrien, probably the brother of Jean.

And what about that word crossed out after Jean Reboute's name?
Sometimes it's more interesting to find out what was written and then needed to be crossed out!
The Jean Reboute seen before in these clips died in 1685. As this is 1690, it's not him.
The Jean who I think was his son, was already in the army by 1690.
Can anybody make it out? Perhaps it's 'cousturier' again as was always written after Jean senior's name, and then realised this wasn't him and crossed out?
Thank you so much
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Help searching for French wives
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 24 November 21 07:16 GMT (UK) »
Could be Lambre or Cambre ,
ses pere et mere ( not "son pere et mere")
.mort subite

Adrien François? chirurgien ?