Author Topic: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK  (Read 2237 times)

guest259648

  • Guest
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 November 21 15:10 GMT (UK) »
You have not told us what time frame these records are for as if they are in the 1900's then they are not so likely to be online.

Did you ever find what you were after in the same general area on this post  :-\
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=855297.

No.
And the person sought here isn't the same person.
x

Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 44,118
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 November 21 15:23 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked newspapers or wills for burial locations

You still have not indicated what year this burial is.  It is hard for us to see what is available so we can offer our advice / help without that information.

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

guest259648

  • Guest
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 November 21 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked newspapers or wills for burial locations

You still have not indicated what year this burial is.  It is hard for us to see what is available so we can offer our advice / help without that information.

The date of committal/cremation is unknown but within the probable range 1915 - 1970 max, however the possible geographical location [general area to within a mile or two] is a pretty good estimate. Hence the enquiry re the whereabouts of original records.

I always go to the originals if poss. The Indexes let you down, time after time.

Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 44,118
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 November 21 15:34 GMT (UK) »
With that time scan I doubt anyone would be offering to look for you except a professional researcher.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


guest259648

  • Guest
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #13 on: Monday 29 November 21 16:27 GMT (UK) »
With that time scan I doubt anyone would be offering to look for you except a professional researcher.

Yes that's what I thought too.
But there are not the funds to engage one... or it would genuinely be difficult to pay...

Which is why I'm assisting, and seeing first if the originals are online or if anyone might have transcribed the originals or have copies of them... and if so, where they might be.
Always worth asking. Sometimes it works.

I used to work in Hounslow. I know the area 'on the ground', it's my patch. So I get enquiries for this area. But I don't know where some original records are currently kept. Hence the enquiry here.

Offline Little Nell

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 11,936
    • View Profile
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #14 on: Monday 29 November 21 18:43 GMT (UK) »
I am puzzled about the large time span for a possible burial/cremation, especially when you seem to know that the person would almost certainly have been buried/cremated within a couple of miles of Isleworth, but which part?  It makes me wonder: has the death has been found in the GRO index to narrow the time down?  By then ages were given in the index.

Be that as it may.

My thoughts are (and perhaps you have already done this and eliminated possible duplicate names, in which case, apologies):

- use wild cards if possible to search the indexes and consider what letters might have been confused for others e.g. St can sometimes look like H; 'll' can be mistaken for 'tt' and vice versa; W can look like M; N could be mistaken for V and vice versa (definitely seen that one)
- check the probate index for possible entries corresponding to GRO deaths;
if you can establish when the person died, check the online newspapers around the right date;

- check the deceased's parents' burial places to see if they were buried there.

All Saints' church at Isleworth has a churchyard but it ceased to be used in the 19th century.  The cemetery beyond the hospital was opened in 1879 to replace it.  I would imagine the burial records are with London Borough of Hounslow, but sometimes burials were recorded by the officiating minister in their own church registers as well as cemetery records.  The registers of All Saints' are held by Hounslow Library.  They were water damaged during the war and can be difficult to read.  There may even be restrictions on viewing now due to their condition.  Isleworth cemetery is now closed for burials, but I can't find out when it closed.  Closure of cemeteries in the time period you are possibly looking at needs to be considered and therefore where might the next choice be.  Inevitably it might be further from Isleworth itself.  New Brentford cemetery for example is in Hounslow.  Hounslow cemetery is still open and that too should be considered. 

Possibly Gunnersbury cemetery - managed by LB Kensington  & Chelsea, opened 1929.

There is a guide to all the cemeteries of London but it may be more of a historical guide than where the records are kept.

South West Middlesex Crematorium (aka Hanworth) is the only crematorium in Hounslow.  However, some residents might have opted for Mortlake, depends on date.  Certainly more recently that was another option.  Both Mortlake and SW Middx has an online Book of Remembrance - doesn't seem to be searchable by name and may be too late for your purposes.

Good luck.

Nell



All census information: Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline majm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,385
  • NSW 1806 Bowman Flag Ecce signum.
    • View Profile
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #15 on: Monday 29 November 21 21:54 GMT (UK) »
I am in NSW Australia.  In the decades before the internet and the commercialisation of family history,  the search for original records was always a very high priority.   In respect of the deceased, it was often a reasonably simple task of writing to the funeral directors and asking for details as to who paid for the funeral, and where buried/cremated.  Funeral director organisations in NSW often were and still can be family businesses passing down through generations.  Some of these have archival records back into the 1800s.  Some have shared their records to peak family history groups. 

Have you considered compiling your own index/database of funeral directors in that London U.K. locality in that broad timeframe,  and then seek out where any of them have archived their old records, even if E&W statute law may have mandated a short timeframe for retention of records.

JM  edited for spelling and grammar.
The information in my posts is provided for academic and non-commercial research purposes. 
Random Acts of Kindness Given Freely are never Worthless for they are Priceless.
Qui scit et non docet.    Qui docet et non vivit.    Qui nescit et non interrogat.   
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
I do not have a face book or a twitter account.

Offline Little Nell

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 11,936
    • View Profile
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #16 on: Monday 29 November 21 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Original cemetery records may well be at London Metropolitan Archives.  See their catalogue:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r39/

Dates given for Isleworth Cemetery are 1879-1936

Nell
All census information: Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Lola5

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 362
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: how to see ORIGINAL cemetery records for Isleworth, London UK
« Reply #17 on: Monday 29 November 21 22:56 GMT (UK) »
I vaguely remember the London Met. archives had records of Isleworth and surrounds.

Have you tried Hounslow library. ? They might be helpful
Hanworth Rd crematorium  was built/ opened in the 1950,s.I remember it well .

There was /is A Hounslow andDistrict History Society.
There might be somone there who might help you.
Hounslow Head librarian would  know if it was still active.

Or maybe try the Middlesex Chronicle newspaper  archives.
There would be deaths and burial notices.