John Herbert Palmer

[Mofamily]

Hi
I am hoping someone could help.  I am trying to trace a John Herbert Palmer B: 1891 in Newcastle-upon-Tyne.  The family story is that he left Newcastle-upon-Tyne following the death of his wife, Florence Edith (nee Daglish B: 1893/4 ) in 1922, leaving most of his children with relatives, but taking the younger daughter, Dorothy B: 1920 with him.  It is also said that he may have gone off with a lady friend neighbour and was not heard of again.

I have been trying to find him and I have come across a 1939 Census record of a John H Palmer B: 1891 living at Strode Road, Fulham.  He is living with a Florence E Palmer B: 1891 and Dorothy B: 1920.  Unfortunately, it does not say where they were born.  I was very drawn to this record because of the names, obviously; but Florence E was a problem.  Who is she?  Didn't she die!?!? Is it just a huge coincidence?

Again, unfortunately, it just says John H Palmer, so is it Herbert; and Florence E Palmer is it Edith?

There is other information written on re a further marriage for Florence E and a marriage for Dorothy (who seems to have married her neighbour, Stanley J Hutchings.

Very convoluted explanation, I know, but could anyone throw any light on these people?   Florence seems to have married a Mr Day and Dorothy a Mr Hutchings, but what happened to the John H Palmer living in Fulham and is it John Herbert?

Here's hoping.
Mo

[rosie99]

Have you looked at the original copy of that 1939 entry as there is an amendment to the wifes first names

[rosie99]

Freebmd has this for the 1944 marriage

DAY    Henry G    (Palmer)   
DAY    Henry G    (Mildenburger)   
MILDENBURGER    Mary A    (Day)   
PALMER    Florence E    (Day)   
Fulham    1a   644   

[rosie99]

It does look good, could he have remained in Fulham to be close to Dorothy

Death Mar qtr 1966   
PALMER    JOHN H   
age 74   
FULHAM    5B   455

ADDED 1939 Electoral register for Fulham at 16 Strode Road has him as John Herbert Palmer with Mary Ann Palmer   

[rosie99]

In 1931 he was at 21 Chesson Road as John Herbert Palmer also there Florence Edith Palmer.

ADDED He was in Chesson Road in 1924 but no evidence of any female partner, she first appears with him in 1930 as Florence Edith Palmer

[rosie99]

There is a Mary Ann Mildenburger on electoral register in Newcastle in 1923 at 9 Stanley Street with Albert Mildenburger

Also there in 1922 - 1926

ADDED
Marriage Mar qtr 1913 
Mildenberger  Albert   
Robinson    Mary A       
Newcastle T.    10b   198   

It certainly look likely that the family in Fulham is your John Herbert Palmer

[Pheno]

There is a Florence Edith Palmer death reg. Tynemouth Q1 1922 age 27, so born about 1895, so possibly the wife of John Herbert.

Could the Florence Edith Palmer with him from 1930 onwards, who married Henry G Day in 1944 be a daughter Florence Edith (not unnaturally named after the mother) rather than a partner?

Pheno

[Dundee]

Florence Edith (nee Daglish B: 1893/4 )

Her birth was registered in the third quarter of 1894.

DAGLISH, FLORENCE  EDITH
Mother's maiden surname: ELLIOTT     
GRO Reference: 1894  S Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B

Five children to the PALMER marriage, Florence Edith was the second child, born in 1916.

Debra 

[rosie99]

The marriage to Henry Day gives both names Florence E Palmer & Mary A Mildenburger, I would presume from that she is the same person but probably did not marry John Herbert Palmer so her 'known as' name as well as her previous married name is mentioned on the certificate

DAY    Henry G    (Palmer)   
DAY    Henry G    (Mildenburger)   
MILDENBURGER    Mary A    (Day)   
PALMER    Florence E    (Day)   
Fulham    1a   644