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Albert Edward Spanner
« on: Thursday 02 December 21 12:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello all, I am new to this site and have been researching my family history for some time. Having managed to trace my paternal line to about 1600 I then tried to trace my maternal side. I have my grandfather's birth certificate. He was Sydney John Spanner, born on 6th March 1884. in Southampton. His father is Albert Edward Spanner and it lists his mother as Alice Spanner formerly Saunders. I can find no marriage certificate or census information about them both. I know all sides of my family were in and out of the workhouse, that's why not listed together in the census maybe. The name Alice Cropp appears often to be connected to Albert but it contradicts the birth certificate. Any thoughts or ideas would be much appreciated, thank you, John.

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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 December 21 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

What was Alberts occupation on Sydneys birth certificate
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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 December 21 16:03 GMT (UK) »
He is Listed as a Labourer. 43 Millbank st, Northam, Southampton.

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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 December 21 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Event Type   Census
Name   Sidney Spanner
Sex   Male
Age   7
Event Date   1891
Event Place   Southampton, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   Southampton, Hampshire, England
Enumeration District   48
Registration District   Southampton
Birth Year (Estimated)   1884
Birthplace   England
Occupation   Scholar
Page Number   17
Piece/Folio   920/ 127
Registration Number   RG12
Institution   Poor House

Alice Spanner F 33 Southampton, England

Charles Spanner M 9 England

Lavina Spanner F 6 England


Alice is wife of Albert a labourer


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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 December 21 16:45 GMT (UK) »
There is a 19 year old Albert Spanner in Millbank Street with his parents Charles & Eliza in 1871 and sisters Charlotte & Lavinia
RG10/1118 f82 p26

He was born Gosport

ADDED was also on Millbank Street in 1861, FindMyPast have transcribed him as Albert J but it is not a J, more like an E
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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 December 21 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Birth registration for Lavinia Alice Spanner Sept qtr 1885 shows mothers maiden name Saunders
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 December 21 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Both Sydney John and Lavinia Alice were baptised in Poole, Dorset on 13 Dec 1886.
Father a Fitter.
Abode is Longfleet


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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 December 21 17:20 GMT (UK) »
it is quite simple really
Alice Saunders MAIDEN name - married a Mr Cropp - I haven't looked for that yet - I will let you
Mr Cropp Dies
and Alice Cropp marries Albert ERNEST Spanner - not Edward ...TEN years after Sidneys birth- but in reality Alice was Saunders before Cropp - OR - she was born Saunders and may have taken her Step fathers name of Cropp??


Marriages Dec 1894   (>99%)
Cotterell    Eliza        Portsea    2b   988    
Cropp    Alice        Portsea    2b   988    
Langley    Benjamin John        Portsea    2b   988    
Spanner    Albert Ernest        Portsea    2b   988    
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without sounding a smarty pants - do you understand why Cropp keeps Cropping up ...pun ...lol

ADDED - Can't find a marriage Saunders / Cropp - so I presume it was her step fathers name ??

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Re: Albert Edward Spanner
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 December 21 17:23 GMT (UK) »
Albert Spanner & son Charles aged 2 were admitted to the Kensington and Chelsea WH on 10.2.1885
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