catholic records

[Karen Coatsworth]

Hello
I hope someone can help with this. I am searching for information on my 3x great grandmother Mary Conory, who was born in Ireland and married my 3x ggrandfather Martin Lambert at the Catholic Chapel Tynemouth on 24th November 1852. Can anyone tell me how I can view the catholic records from the Tynemouth chapel around 1850's? Which chapel would it have been? I have tried google but there doesnt seem to be information about what the name of the chapel was at that time.
I cant find my Mary Conory in the 1851 census.
On the marriage certificate her father is named as Patrick Conory. I can find no information to suggest he came from Ireland to UK on any census. I am assuming that Mary perhaps came by herself or with family(there is a John Conory and family who lived in the area at  the time.) In the 1861 census Martin and Mary Lambert and family are living in Walker Northumberland at house number 134(Icant read the street name) and at 135 there are boarders-John Conory age 50 and Patrick age 16.
There is no information on any census' that name the county in Ireland Mary came from.
Mary died in the first quarter of 1897-I found the death registration.
Thanks in advance
Karen.

[Maiden Stone]

A Catholic mission began in Tynemouth 1869 in a room in the bishop's house. A church, Our Lady & St. Oswin, was built 1871. Diocese of Hexham & Newcastle.
https://www.twsitelines.info/SMR/9396

Baptism, marriage & death registers from 1871 in Tyne & Wear Archives.

Tyne & Wear Archives also appears to have some earlier Catholic baptism records for Tynemouth, various runs of years, starting 1784, with long gaps. Maybe there was a visiting priest before the mission.

The map on GENUKI doesn't show any Catholic churches in Tynemouth. A search for nearby churches in a radius of 5 miles only came up with R.C. churches in South Shields, Jarrow and Hebburn. Foundation years weren't shown for any. Perhaps volunteers haven't got around to R.C. churches north of the river yet.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Tynemouth
Select tab "Nearby churches" and adjust distance. Catholic churches locations are yellow markers on map. Enlarge map, select a marker to see name. Clicking on a name usually shows more information on another page but info for those churches is minimal.
From menu on main Tynemouth page select topic "Church Records". Go past list of Anglican churches on Church Records page to Non-conformist. Click on link for non-conformist records. This takes you to an alphabetical list. Look under T for Tynemouth R.C. baptisms. There may be other R.C. entries on the list.

When there were few chapels, few priests and a growing number of Catholics in a district as there were in many areas in England mid C.19th, practice was for a priest to travel to say Mass for congregations in whatever premises were available. Priests from different churches may have shared duties.     

[Maiden Stone]

Registers of St. Cuthbert R.C. church, North Shields dating from 1807 to end of 19th century, with gaps, are in Tyne & Wear Archives. The church opened 1821. Catholics from South Shields travelled to it by boat on Sundays until they found premises on their side of the river in 1832 and later opened a church in South Shields. I surmise that Tynemouth Catholics also used St. Cuthbert's; it was only a couple of miles away on dry land, no boat necessary. The printed list of Catholic registers was compiled 2011.
https://twarchives.org.uk

Durham Record Office has even earlier Catholic registers for the Tyneside area, beginning 1780's.
www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk

Catholic Family History Society
catholicfhs.online

The Catholic National Library is at Durham University. Among the holdings is " Catholic Family History Society Mission Register Transcripts". There's a printed (original) version (pdf) of the catalogue and a digital one. The catalogue is long, many volumes. It seems to be in alphabetical order by county with additions  & miscellanea in the final volumes.
https://www.durham.ac.uk

Some Catholic registers were transcribed and published by the Catholic Record Society in their "Records" series journals a century ago. They are now online. I don't know if any Northumbrian records were included. Some journals contain several articles on a variety of topics,(except for Lancashire registers which fill entire journals), so each has to be opened to see contents page. The journals contain articles about Catholic history; there may be some about Northumberland. 
https://www.crs.org.uk

As there were Connery people in the next household to Mary there's a good chance they were relatives. Was it a separate building or another household in the same building?
Conory may have appeared as Connery or Conroy on records. 

[Karen Coatsworth]

Thank you Maiden Stone for your reply and links. I will check them out now and will keep you posted. It looks as if they were in separate houses. The 2 listings are different schedule numbers on the census form and different house numbers. Yes Im sure there would have been several variations of spelling, I will check other spellings in my search.
Regards Karen.

[wivenhoe]

Can you please list all the information on the marriage certificate, 1852. There will be useful information. Who signs their name, who uses their mark?

Do you see addresses....occupations....ages....witnesses. All the information please.

[Karen Coatsworth]

I tried to upload the certificate but it is too large. Date is 24th November 1852. Ages were both 22 of the groom and bride. Profession of Martin is labourer and it looks like the same mark for Mary ''. Residence I dont understand, for Martin it says Percy Mani Christi and for Mary Percy Mann Christi (I think). Fathers are John Lambert and Patrick Conory both labourers. Mark of Martin Lambert and Mark of Mary Conory, Mark of James Thrift? and mark of Catherine Lambert, Martin's mother.
Karen.

[wivenhoe]

Is this your family?

GRO births

LAMBERT Mary      mms. CONOREY
1853 JunQ           Tynemouth  Vol 10B page 133

LAMBERT Catherine     mms. CONORY
1857 DecQ           Tynemouth  Vol 10b page 148

LAMBERT John      mms.  CONORY
1859 SepQ          Tynemouth   Vol 10B  page 129

Census 1861 England  @ 6 **** Walker Northumberland
LAMBERT Martin        30y  iron factory lab.          b. Ireland
LAMBERT Mary          28y                                   b. Ireland
LAMBERT Mary            7y                                   b. Walker Northumberland
LAMBERT Michael        5y                                   b. Walker Northumberland
LAMBERT Catherine    3y                                    b. Walker Northumberland
LAMBERT John             1y                                  b. Walker Northumberland
DERMOND John          30y   boarder iron worker  b. Ireland

next residence

BUTT** Thomas        28y  iron shop **                b. Ireland
BUTT** Mary            26y                                     b. Ireland
BUTT** Patrick           4y                                     b. Benton Northumberland
BUTT** Michael          3y                                     b. Benton Northumberland
BUTT** Mary              1y                                     b. Benton Northumberland
CONNEY John           50y    boarder   iron lab.        b. Ireland
DOOLEY John            25y   boarder   iron worker    b. Ireland
RAYNO Timothy        26y    boarder   iron worker    b. Ireland
CONNERY Patrick       16y   boarder   iron worker    b. Ireland 
 
Can you describe the LAMBERT family you are seeing in 1861.

[JenB]

Percy Mani Christi and for Mary Percy Mann Christi

I'm pretty sure that will actually be 'Percy Main, Chirton'
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.00384&lon=-1.47100&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld

[Maiden Stone]

I'm pretty sure that will actually be 'Percy Main, Chirton'
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.00384&lon=-1.47100&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld

There's an earlier map, surveyed 1858. Bedford St., North Shields, where St. Cuthbert's church was, is  visible when the map is enlarged. Chirton looks fairly near. I wonder why they didn't marry at St. Cuthbert's.
The Tynemouth chapel may have been a room in a school or pub or shop or someone's house.