James Brown & Johanna Brown nee Rizzo - New York City

[KennyBrown.NI]

I am looking 3 things with this post.
1. Where and When did James and Johanna die / are buried?
2. Did they have any children?
3. All the ships and records of sailings James was on.

James Brown born 25 Mar 1886 Belfast, Ireland
Johanna Rizzo born 14 Nov 1899 NY, USA

James appears to have been a steward aboard many ships.

He married Johanna Rizzo in 29 Aug 1934 in Manhattan, New York City.
He was granted US Citizenship in 1937

Their last known address in 1942 was 2 Cooper Street, Manhattan, NYC, USA
U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1002/images/NY-2283380-6153?pId=710976

Hope you can help.

[mckha489]

Have you ruled out this one for Johanna

Johanna Brown
Age:   51
Birth Date:   abt 1900
Death Date:   3 Jan 1951
Death Place:   Brooklyn, New York, New York, USA
Certificate Number:   21

[KennyBrown.NI]

Have you ruled out this one for Johanna

Johanna Brown
Age:   51
Birth Date:   abt 1900
Death Date:   3 Jan 1951
Death Place:   Brooklyn, New York, New York, USA
Certificate Number:   21

Never seen it to rule it out haha. Thanks could be a hit. Just wish i could see the cert itself.

[mckha489]

Someone who has a newspaper sub may be along soon. Or if you have never signed up before you could take out the free trial on newspapers.com and search for an obituary.

Or this site

https://newspaperarchive.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiA78aNBhAlEiwA7B76pymZpQnXSMq8ia_paqGsJbuqSPzXDgyJSlzWdOMWf0AcnURkT6zw_hoCJvoQAvD_BwE

[oldohiohome]

They had no children living with them on the 1940 census, at 685 Academy St, Manhattan.

For his arrivals look at:
1892 to 1924
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1368704?collectionNameFilter=false&cid=bl-fsup-8026
1925 and after
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1923888

To help others who are looking. their marriage record says his parents were George Brown and Mary Ann Duncan
hers were Dominic Rizzo and Angelina Fate
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24DR-35J

An ancestry tree says Angelina's name was Giovanna "Angela" Foti
His parents' names on the marriage agree with his birth on the Civil Reg. in Ireland.

The 1900 Rizzo household had 2 sons who are said (by a tree) to have survived Johanna's marriage. Maybe their obits would mention her as deceased, helping to ID the 1951 death as hers:

Joseph Rizzo (1881 - 1962)
Adolf Rizzo (1884 - 1966)

I believe they both died in the NYC area but I have already closed those tabs.

[shellyesq]

In case you don't know, the 1950 census is coming out in April 2022, so that might be helpful for this couple.

[KennyBrown.NI]

Here are some of the ship records I have just found for him:

Departure Port: Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1918
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Santa Marta
Crew Position: Deck Steward

Departure Port:   New York
Arrival Date: 10 Jul 1918
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Santa Marta
Crew Position: Deck Steward

Departure Port: Kingston, Jamaica
Arrival Date: 9 Aug 1918
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Santa Marta
Crew Position: Deck Steward

Departure Port: ?
Arrival Date: 2 Sep 1918
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Santa Marta
Crew Position: Deck Steward

Departure Port:   Cristobal,via Colombian Ports
Arrival Date: 4 Oct 1918
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Santa Marta
Crew Position: Deck Steward

Departure Port:   Havana Cristobal Port Limon
Arrival Date: 17 Nov 1919
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Santa Marta
Crew Position:  2nd Steward

Departure Port:   Cristóbal and Port Limon, Costa Rica
Arrival Date: 15 Dec 1919
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Santa Marta
Crew Position: 2nd Steward

Departure Port:   Havana, Cristobal and Port Limon
Arrival Date: 17 May 1920
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Calamares
Crew Position: 2nd Steward

Departure Port:   Limon Via Cristobal & Havana
Arrival Date: 5 Sep 1920
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Calamares
Crew Position: 2nd Steward

Departure Port:   Kingston, Jamaica
Arrival Date: 4 Nov 1921
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Tivives
Crew Position:2nd Steward

[KennyBrown.NI]

Departure Port: Santiago, Kingston, Pto Barrios, Pto Cortez, Tela & Pto Castilla
Arrival Date: 31 May 1923
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward
(Would love to have found out What happened in Kingston. Several Crew Discharged or sent to Jail!!)

Departure Port: Santiago,kingston,Puerto Barrios,Puerto Cortes,Tela & Puerto Castillo
Arrival Date: 27 Jun 1923
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port:   Santiago,kingston,pto Barrios,pto Cortez,tela & Pt Castilla
Arrival Date: 25 Jul 1923
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port: Santiago
Arrival Date: 17 Aug 1923
Arrival Port: New Orleans, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port: Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 7 Sep 1923
Arrival Port: New Orleans, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port:   Santa Marta Puerto Colombia Cristebal,cz and Kingston,ja
Arrival Date: 18 Oct 1923
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Carrillo
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port:   Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 11 Jan 1924
Arrival Port: New Orleans, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port:   Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 1 Feb 1924
Arrival Port: New Orleans, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port:   Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 22 Feb 1924
Arrival Port: New Orleans, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port: Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 14 Mar 1924
Arrival Port: New Orleans, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port:   Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 4 Apr 1924
Arrival Port: New Orleans, USA
Ship Name: Turrialba
Crew Position: Chief Steward

Departure Port: Kingston Cristobal Cartagena Puerto Colombia and Santa Marta, Colombia
Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1924
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Carrillo
Crew Position:Chief Steward

Departure Port:   San Francisco and Los Angeles, California and Canal Zone and Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 3 Aug 1931
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: California
Crew Position: Assistant 2nd Steward

Departure Port:   San Francisco and Los Angeles, California and Canal Zone and Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 14 Sep 1931
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: California
Crew Position: Assistant 2nd Steward

Departure Port: Los Angeles, California
Arrival Date: 26 Oct 1931
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: California
Crew Position: Assistant 2nd Steward

Departure Port:   Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1931
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: California
Crew Position: Assistant Steward

Departure Port:   Havana, Cuba
Arrival Date: 20 Jun 1932
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Pennsylvania
Crew Position: Assistant Steward

[KennyBrown.NI]

In case you don't know, the 1950 census is coming out in April 2022, so that might be helpful for this couple.

Great! I just wish the Northern Irish Census of 1936 would be released. But have to wait until 2036