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John Poole-Bigamist or not
« on: Saturday 11 December 21 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
I am looking for possible marriages for the above person. John Poole was born in 1840, registered in Nantwich Cheshire, mmn was Potts.
I have him aged 1 in 1841 with his parents Ralph and Sarah Poole living in Barthomley in Cheshire.
1851 aged 11 he was an apprentice Tailor with a Billington family in Barthomley. Heres the interesting part, John married an Isabelle Campbell in 1860 in Farnsworth Lancashire, on the 1861 census they had 1 son Thomas George Poole aged 1 month, Isabelle was down as being born in Scotland (Argyll).
Then Isabelle and son Thomas totally disappear and by 1871 John Poole is with a Sarah (possibly Burslem) as man and wife living in Birmingham with their child called Edith Poole aged 8 months.
Then in 1881 John is with a different woman again, this time her name is Rose aged 27 and again living as man and wife. They have Edith with them aged 10 from the 1871 census, a child called Jannet aged 9 (which i havent checked for a birth yet) but they have 5 children together, Maud, Sidney, Myra, Minnie and Harry.
What i need help on is,
1. What happened to his first wife Isabelle? Did she die or did he leave her?
2. Did he marry Sarah from the 1871 census, and what happened to her before 1881?
3. Did he also marry Rose from the 1881 census.
Hope that all makes sense.
Thankyou in advance.

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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 December 21 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Start by providing either the census refs or the URL for each census entry.

Search gro for mmn for each child.

Relate the findings
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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 December 21 13:36 GMT (UK) »
Have you compared his signature and  the information about him and his father on each marriage certificate?   

Have you established that there are no others by his name, age, place of birth?


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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 December 21 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Have you compared his signature and  the information about him and his father on each marriage certificate?   

Have you established that there are no others by his name, age, place of birth?


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Oops,  from your opening post, you have not yet got any marriage cert...  try freebmd ....


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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 December 21 13:48 GMT (UK) »
The transcript of the marriage to Isabella is on Lancs opc https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Her father, Archibald.

1861 2742 /85/1
Farnworth
Archibald Campbell 45 yrs
Mary Campbell   41 yrs
Duncan Campbell 17 yrs
All born Scotland

It might help to find Isabella later
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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 December 21 15:43 GMT (UK) »
Marriage 1883 St Mary’s Manchester

Thomas Poole,  22 yrs Gentleman, King St West father John Henry Poole, Tailor
Florence Maude Smith 19yrs King St West father Samuel Ridley Smith, Gentleman

Witnesses ArchD Campbell and Elizabeth Gibbon

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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 December 21 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Presumably Jannet 'Poole'

PALMER, JANET  ROSETTA     - 
GRO Reference: 1872  March Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 113
 
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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 December 21 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Marriage June qtr 1889   :-\
PALMER    Rose Sophia       
POOLE    John       
Chorlton    8c   1205   
LancsBMD has. - Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended


Birth reg for a Rose Sophia Palmer March qtr 1851 Banbury RD  :-\
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Re: John Poole-Bigamist or not
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 December 21 17:11 GMT (UK) »
John married an Isabelle Campbell in 1860 in Farnsworth Lancashire, on the 1861 census they had 1 son Thomas George Poole aged 1 month,

She is IsabellA on the marriage and census, born c1840.
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