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birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« on: Monday 13 December 21 12:08 GMT (UK) »
The couple Arthur Fegan (also spelled Fagan) and Catharine McClory married on 18-10-1839 in Newry, Co. Down. They get 13 children: first four in Annaghlone, Co Down (1841-1845), then four in Liverpool (1847-1854), and finally five in  Kilcoo, Co. Down.
I have found RC baptism records for all but one: Arthur, named after his father, who according to the census record of 1871 was born circa 1852 in Liverpool. Her married 8 July 1872 in Liverpool with Elizabeth Downes. Any help in finding the birth or baptism of this Arthur will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Have you found the family in 1851? Where are they exactly?
And where - in what RC Parish - were the children before and after Arthur baptized?  Does that help find Arthur?

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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:36 GMT (UK) »
The earliest mention of the family I have found is in the 1871 census of England. The address there is Worthington Street, Toxteth Park. In Liverpool, the children are baptized in St Patrick Church.
The child before Arthur and the one following him have been baptized in Liverpool, but I do not find Arthur there, and the 1871 census gives his place of birth as "Ireland".

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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:36 GMT (UK) »
You donít name the other children in the family to compare names as I can only see Henry b 1852

Henry Fegan, June quarter, 1852,  Liverpool mmn McClury

Catholic baptism St Patrickís, Liverpool
11 April 1852 (born 5th )
Henry Fagan - parents Arthur Fagan and Catherine McClorey
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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:41 GMT (UK) »
1871 3793 /17/28

Auther Fegan, 18 yrs b Ireland
Henry Fegan, 16 yrs b Liverpool
Terence Fegan 14 yrs b Liverpool

Plus the rest of the family

Baptism records
Henry - 1852
Terence - 1854
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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:43 GMT (UK) »
1871 3793 /17/28

Auther Fegan, 18 yrs b Ireland
Henry Fegan, 16 yrs b Liverpool
Terence Fegan 14 yrs b Liverpool

Plus the rest of the family

Baptism records
Henry - 1852
Terence - 1854

Yes, just found this also.
children: Thomas, Arthur, Henry, Terence, Hugh, Margaret, Sarah, Felix
with Thomas and Henry born in Liverpool, but Arthur in Ireland

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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:47 GMT (UK) »
The children:
John  bapt. 1 Jan 1841 Annaghlone, C. Down
Patrick bapt. 25 Sep 1848 same
James bapt. 9 Jun 1844 same
Mary bapt. 21 Oct 1845 same
Thomas born 1847D 20 544 Liverpool
Arthur 1852 Ireland, according to census 1871  <<< THIS IS THE PERSON I AM LOOKING FOR
Henry bapt. 11 Apr 1852 St Patrick, Liverpool (born 5 Apr 1852, GRO Liverpool 1852 J 8B 133)
Terence 21 Feb 1854 St Vincent, Liverpool (born 16 Feb 1854, GRO Liverpool 1854 M 8B 136)
Hugh bapt. 6 Jul 1855 Kilcoo, Co. Down
Mary 21 Jun 1856 same
Catherine 14 Aug 1857 same
Sara Ann bapt. 28 Nov 1858 same
Felix bapt. 21 Feb 1861 same.









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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:49 GMT (UK) »
1881 3634 /80/9

Arthur Fagan, 29 yrs b County Down
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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 December 21 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Yes, but I do not see his birth or baptism on rootsireland.ie
Are there other sites where I may have better luck?