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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 December 21 16:04 GMT (UK) »
And I didn't see him in the indexes at ancestry or findmypast. Rootsireland is said to be better than both of them, anyway.

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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 December 21 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry and Find my Past have indexes to some Catholic records. I have looked but can’t see Arthur, sadly.
If you don’t have indexes, you just have to go through - can be difficult.

Kilcoo parish
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0432

Annaghlone
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0437
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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 December 21 16:13 GMT (UK) »
There are these:

Thomas b December quarter 1847 Liverpool (can’t see a baptism)

Henry b 1852 Liverpool
Terence b 1854 Liverpool

So Arthur born 1850 +/- 1 year?
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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 December 21 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Kilcoo parish records seem to have a gap between 1840s and 1851 - see page here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633229#page/93/mode/1up

It might be that they are out of order or missing altogether

Added - I just tried searching for (any) 1850 baptisms but none show.
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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 December 21 16:49 GMT (UK) »
I looked through both, for th period 1847 to 1852, without success.

I saw no gaps in the Kilcoo baptism register. However, the regular and quite readable handwriting suggests to me that this is a later copy of the original register. No Arthur Fegan found, alas.

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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 18 December 21 22:36 GMT (UK) »
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Ancestry and Find my Past have indexes to some Catholic records. I have looked but can’t see Arthur, sadly.
If you don’t have indexes, you just have to go through - can be difficult.

The Catholic Registers and Index are a Free collection on Findmypast. Full access without a sub, just have to register & logon.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/360002792977-are-there-free-records-on-findmypast-
https://www.findmypast.com/page/free-ancestry-records

Findmypast & Ancestry jointly did the transcriptions from the NLI microfilm so transcriptions are in theory the same though the search interfaces can generate different variants. RootsIreland are from the actual parish registers with locally done transcription so in general are more accurate.

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Re: birth/baptism sought of Arthur Fagan, around 1852 C. Down
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 October 22 20:51 BST (UK) »
It looks like we are both researching the same family. Arthur's brother Hugh, born 1855 ish is my great grandfather. Hughs son was Edward, Edwards son was Brian and Brian's daughter is Me

I have also drawn a blank of any baptism for the same Arthur, born 1850.

I'm thinking, their father, also Arthur was the first to come over here to Liverpool 🥰