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Re: Frederick Dean
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 December 21 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Obit for Frederick Dean.
As I read it, he was a child or youth on the Victorian goldfields. This suggests he arrived in Australia quite young. Would be interested in other opinions….
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/202435928?searchTerm=“Frederick%20Dean”
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Re: Frederick Dean
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 December 21 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Good find Neale.

1908 - 60 = 1848 likely year of birth

1908 - 20 = 1888 likely move to Millicent

Gold Rushes commence in both NSW and Vic in 1851  -  so very possible immigrant as a young child with his parent/s in 1853 from Wiltshire.

Re learning to read and write -  Often family history buffs discard the non-religious benefits of Sunday Schools frequently taught reading and writing to those attending classes, on Sundays and sometimes on other days of the week too.   Also, often on those long voyages to the colonies from Britain, the Ship's Captain and or Surgeon and or various leading passengers would use the spare time to hold classes in reading, writing, numbers, sewing, knitting, etc... 

I can read that newspaper cutting both ways - childhood and also as a young adult even say to mid 30s... 

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Re: Frederick Dean
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 December 21 02:38 GMT (UK) »
This obituary for wife Johanna further  supports the find of the death n 1908 of Frederick Dean as posted by Neale

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/77994161

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Re: Frederick Dean
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 December 21 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Johanna's obit says she lived in Millicent for all of the 62 years since her marriage which suggests that Frederick would have been in Millicent by 1875, leaving Victoria at least by then, when he was aged abt 27.

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Re: Frederick Dean
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 December 21 07:35 GMT (UK) »
There are quite a few threads started by various RChatters about Frederick & Johanna ..... including from our current OP.

We may be duplicating info provided previously.   ::)

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Re: Frederick Dean
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 19 December 21 10:25 GMT (UK) »
There are quite a few threads started by various RChatters about Frederick & Johanna ..... including from our current OP.

We may be duplicating info provided previously.   ::)

JM

Well, perhaps we can leave it to to Mr Bish to take the time in filtering and sorting the existing details.

Then maybe they will advise if there are specific gaps.

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Re: Frederick Dean
« Reply #15 on: Monday 27 December 21 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your help , I think maybe I should look a bit harder into the James Dean Wiltshire connection , I might have ruled it out to early.
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